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    Met Marty tonight, and his charming wife, and also Axiom 142, known on ESMB

    who also came to meet Marty.


    I found Marty to be very strong, charming and charismatic. Someone I'd really like as a friend. We've had a few miscommunications of no great import and did the scientological thing, handling with communication. Our viewpoints are a little different here and there,

    but we both have total agreement that the tech is.... well miraculous at times, and worth

    supporting and promoting. I'm at the very liberal, even politically incorrect, edge of scientology. Marty is more orthodox, but not that orthodox! By that I mean he follows the 1959 essay by LRH on how and why one studies. Think for oneself. make it ones own or not.


    Marty has come under a lot of criticism, including a little from me. He has been criticised for not being more active re lets say justice action re Miscavidge. He commented that

    things may be going on out of public view. From his first post on ESMB he said there is a

    correct time and place for things. I took that at face value, and he has since been more

    forthcoming. And he said more will be coming down the line. My guess is that he has been meeting the BBC here in the UK. We shall see.


    So you take on the nastiest most litigious organisation in the western world, it may

    be pertinent to hold your cards close to your chest.


    Thank heavens he's not in hiding!


    One question I asked, that I felt I couldn't trust the data on, was whether LRH, SCN,

    were under serious attacks by governments and other agencies. There is much info from

    COS on this, and LRH, but they can't really be fully trusted as a data source. I have myself found examples of the AMA sending info to who I can't remember attacking LRH and dianetics from the early fifties. Being more interested in promoting the FZ I stupidly never kept a copy. Dunno if I can find it again. Marty it appears is the best source of data on this as he was involved in collecting data for the " All Clear Unit" in his early posts and he verified the data re AMA and much else. He also commented that LRH was in military or

    naval intelligence.


    Marty has been under a cloud so's to speak with regard to his high post in the COS

    and being over and involved with OSA. He was doing his best to defend the Church

    and the tech. Back in earlier times this may have been the right thing to do in some

    ways. He does have a somewhat different different view now, in particular with regard to

    attacks on Mayo. Not that Mayo is a hero of his, but he said he was a FAR better senior

    C/S int than Mithof.


    Some don't like Marty's comments on matters in Oz. He is though a gamekeeper

    turned poacher. His comments are well worth looking at. He is THE expert in this field.



    Its my view that Marty is completely honest in that he is telling the truth as he sees it.

    And he's seen a lot.


    bb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terril park View Post
    Met Marty tonight, and his charming wife, and also Axiom 142, known on ESMB

    who also came to meet Marty.


    I found Marty to be very strong, charming and charismatic. Someone I'd really like as a friend. We've had a few miscommunications of no great import and did the scientological thing, handling with communication. Our viewpoints are a little different here and there,

    but we both have total agreement that the tech is.... well miraculous at times, and worth

    supporting and promoting. I'm at the very liberal, even politically incorrect, edge of scientology. Marty is more orthodox, but not that orthodox! By that I mean he follows the 1959 essay by LRH on how and why one studies. Think for oneself. make it ones own or not.


    Marty has come under a lot of criticism, including a little from me. He has been criticised for not being more active re lets say justice action re Miscavidge. He commented that

    things may be going on out of public view. From his first post on ESMB he said there is a

    correct time and place for things. I took that at face value, and he has since been more

    forthcoming. And he said more will be coming down the line. My guess is that he has been meeting the BBC here in the UK. We shall see.


    So you take on the nastiest most litigious organisation in the western world, it may

    be pertinent to hold your cards close to your chest.


    Thank heavens he's not in hiding!


    One question I asked, that I felt I couldn't trust the data on, was whether LRH, SCN,

    were under serious attacks by governments and other agencies. There is much info from

    COS on this, and LRH, but they can't really be fully trusted as a data source. I have myself found examples of the AMA sending info to who I can't remember attacking LRH and dianetics from the early fifties. Being more interested in promoting the FZ I stupidly never kept a copy. Dunno if I can find it again. Marty it appears is the best source of data on this as he was involved in collecting data for the " All Clear Unit" in his early posts and he verified the data re AMA and much else. He also commented that LRH was in military or

    naval intelligence.


    Marty has been under a cloud so's to speak with regard to his high post in the COS

    and being over and involved with OSA. He was doing his best to defend the Church

    and the tech. Back in earlier times this may have been the right thing to do in some

    ways. He does have a somewhat different different view now, in particular with regard to

    attacks on Mayo. Not that Mayo is a hero of his, but he said he was a FAR better senior

    C/S int than Mithof.


    Some don't like Marty's comments on matters in Oz. He is though a gamekeeper

    turned poacher. His comments are well worth looking at. He is THE expert in this field.



    Its my view that Marty is completely honest in that he is telling the truth as he sees it.

    And he's seen a lot.


    bb

    The website for our internet Org.
    http://www.freewebs .com/techoutside thecofs/
    That's all very lovely, but what I really want to know is, what are his crimes?

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    Terril,

    Was Mike with marty?

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    TP,

    You do have wonderful ambassadorial & diplomatic skills.Everyone loves the message you bring back of "PEACE IN OUR TIME".

    Sometimes that is great news. Sometimes not.

    Let's see what happens. (ps: Helpful Hint. One day when someone asks you to wear a "Loyal FZ Officer" armband and get on a train, be careful!)

    ("Peace In Our Time" Chamberlain's promise at appx: 1:45)
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    Scientology in one word? HelluvaHoax!

    I never felt as free as when I freed myself from "Total Freedom".

    For offended Scientologists reading this blasphemy about L. Ron Hubbard---my apologies for talking about real life without lying to you, like Scientology, with goo-goo theta-talk. I know you don't have a floating needle right now. You're not supposed to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozeno View Post
    That's all very lovely, but what I really want to know is, what are his crimes?
    His Crimes! He was the boogey man for christ sake! The inspector general of RTC! Miscavige (the cunts) bully boy!

    We all know what his crimes are.



    I wanna know if he is going to play Brutus to Miscaviges Ceasar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozeno View Post
    That's all very lovely, but what I really want to know is, what are his crimes?

    Nozeno, did you create that ?

    You totally screwed me up, man! My case supervisor said I cannot read or post more to ESMB until I stop laughing hysterically. Damn you!
    ________________________

    Scientology literally saved my life! Without Ron's books I would have frozen to death!!! (see avatar)

    Scientology in one word? HelluvaHoax!

    I never felt as free as when I freed myself from "Total Freedom".

    For offended Scientologists reading this blasphemy about L. Ron Hubbard---my apologies for talking about real life without lying to you, like Scientology, with goo-goo theta-talk. I know you don't have a floating needle right now. You're not supposed to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freethinker View Post
    Terril,

    Was Mike with marty?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaHoax! View Post
    TP,

    You do have wonderful ambassadorial & diplomatic skills.Everyone loves the message you bring back of "PEACE IN OUR TIME".

    Sometimes that is great news. Sometimes not.

    Let's see what happens. (ps: Helpful Hint. One day when someone asks you to wear a "Loyal FZ Officer" armband and get on a train, be careful!)
    I'm not Chamberlain.

    Myself and Marty both continue with the tech. But he's even more laid back than me, which is suprising.

    He is DMs greatest enemy and apart from giving tech services is doing more than anyone to discredit DM and the abuses of the Church.

    You may not like all he says but I consider he is being totally honest.

    To consider him the enemy is problematic to say the least.

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    Marty will never be fully truthful, the goverment would take his future kingdom away then what you do? For future reference, I will rent out my basement cheap, bring your own cans and I will under cut Marty's price by half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terril park View Post
    I'm not Chamberlain.

    Myself and Marty both continue with the tech. But he's even more laid back than me, which is suprising.

    He is DMs greatest enemy and apart from giving tech services is doing more than anyone to discredit DM and the abuses of the Church.

    You may not like all he says but I consider he is being totally honest.

    To consider him the enemy is problematic to say the least.


    Hi T,

    I don't consider him the enemy of Scientology. Maybe the enemy of something else.....

    Best!

    HH
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    Scientology literally saved my life! Without Ron's books I would have frozen to death!!! (see avatar)

    Scientology in one word? HelluvaHoax!

    I never felt as free as when I freed myself from "Total Freedom".

    For offended Scientologists reading this blasphemy about L. Ron Hubbard---my apologies for talking about real life without lying to you, like Scientology, with goo-goo theta-talk. I know you don't have a floating needle right now. You're not supposed to.

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