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If that means what I think it does, Australian law is similar to UK law in this regard. Charities cannot 'trade for profit' without creating all kinds of tax problems, so they normally set up a seperate entity to sell the Tshirts and mugs. That company passes on its profit to the Charity.Note about halfway through the document is a point about not engaging in trade. Hah! Section 3H: "To ensure that the College does not engage in any activity which is susceptible of being construed as trade activity in Australia or in any other territory in which the College may from time to time have any form of direct or indirect presence."
The Catch 22 in this is that no one in the UK can shut down COSRECI as it is a South Australian Charity, and no one in South Australia is interested in investigating COSRECI and taking its Charity status away as it doesn't actually DO anything in Australia. That's not to say that COSRECI can't be sued in the UK, as indeed Bonnie Woods did in her libel case.
Except... oh wait... don't we know a politician there... what was his name again?
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Hi Rog.
Thank you for the COSRECI constitution. While I agree with Paul that it is all smoke and mirrors, Section Six on the last page caught my attention, and which is as follows:
(you might be able to fill in the missing words, if the original is more legible)ARTICLE SIX Dissolution.
The Board of Trustees shall be authorized at any time to dissolve the College in whole or in part subject to the relevant statutory provisions. Any surplus assets will be transferred to a person which exists wholly and exclusively for the purpose of furthering the doctrines and Creed of the religion of Scientology as formulated by its Founder, L. Ron Hubbard.
ARTICLE SEVEN Interpretation
Section I. General
Unless the context otherwise requires, the singular shall include the plural and vice versa and the masculine shall include the feminine gender.
Section 2. Particular.
The definitions of this section are to assist in the interpretation of this constitution and # # # # #.
(a) “Special Rule” means a Rule passed by the Board of Trustees, and “By law” means # # # # # ratified by the Board of Trustees.
(b)”The College” unless the context otherwise requires means the Church of Scientology Religious Education College.
(c)”Religion” means the system, worship and human recognition of superhuman controlling power and the effect of this on the conduct of # # # # human beings.
Section Six with Miscavige's undated signed resignation technique could well be involved here and no doubt an undated assignment of the COSRECI assets also exists with the recipient being a corporation, which is probably a Panamanian corporation.
Regards, David.
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Sorry guys, there was some omitted data in my previous posting, which has now been corrected. It was part (b) and (c) of Article Seven.
Regards, David.
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If it helps David, here is my best guess in red
ARTICLE SEVEN Interpretation
Section I. General
Unless the context otherwise requires, the singular shall include the plural and vice versa and the masculine shall include the feminine gender.
Section 2. Particular.
The definitions of this section are to assist in the interpretation of this constitution and General Rules .
(a) “Special Rule” means a Rule passed by the Board of Trustees, and “By law” means an article ratified by the Board of Trustees.
(b)”The College” unless the context otherwise requires means the Church of Scientology Religious Education College.
(c)”Religion” means the system, worship and human recognition of superhuman controlling power and the effect of this on the conduct of normal human beings.
Hi dchoiceisalwaysrs.
Thank you for providing your suggestions. There can be no doubt that your suggestion of "General Rules" is spot on, in that that phrase is used a couple of time in the body of the document. I do like your "normal" for (C), and suspect that it ia probably spot on. But I don't think "an Article" is correct for (A). A bylaw is commonly used to describe a local rule which is introduced but needs to be ratified by the "government" to continue. So I think it might be "a rule".
Thanks again.
Regards, David.
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Fantastic thread!
However, I just tried to open the downloaded pdf document - twice downloaded - and Adobe is telling me that "There was an error reading this document. The file is damaged and cannot be repaired ", lol
Anyone have an idea what the issue may be on this. I would really love to read this.
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AnonMary, I just tested the attachment and it opened fine for me . . . for me it opened in Adobe 8.1 (which is my default for such) Maybe, you don't have the latest version of Adobe??? . . . time to update if not . . . also, I read Adobe has been hit with some security weakness exposure that they must fix, so it does make imperative good sense to keep these things up to date . . . . the article on the security issue cited that Adobe is in approximately 95+% of PCs in the world . . . and that is the reason it makes a perfect target for the baddies who like to enter your computer with nasty things
OK, I have read the Charter and these things pop out t me, along with Mate's view of where the "College" has some constraints and naughties going on:
The College was registered in Adelaide, S. Aust. on the 19th October, 1976Section 11. ABSENCE OF PECUNIARY GAIN
The College is to carry on its operations without any pecuniary gain to any member and it shall be prohibited from distributing any surplus or any other form of dividend to any members.
(Elsewhere in the Charter, however it makes provision that: "The Board can disperse funds at its sole discretion.")
Under Article Three: (Governing the Board’s and Officers’ Powers and Duties)
Section 3 (i)
To ensure that no substantial part of the activity of the College shall be designed to influence the legislation of any territory in which it has a direct or indirect presence or influence a political campaign in such territory or to promote propaganda in any such territory.
Presented 18 March and registered 25 March, 1977 in UK
Err, umm, not allowed to engage in, what's that wording again? " . . . no substantial part of the activity of the College shall be designed to influence the legislation of any territory in which it has a direct or indirect presence or influence a political campaign in such territory or to promote propaganda in any such territory."
Hmmmm, now where have we seen that violated by them and on how many occasions?!
As to the illegibility of the PDF from the UK, it is a copy made of the original dox in Adelaide and taken to the UK . . . . it is not uncommon for such to be bad copies. It was a perennial problem when I was doing Companies House searches in my old game in London. The original dox in Adelaide will be perfectly legible if we needed to get such.
It is interesting to note that, at the time of the setting up of the "College" it embraced as members effectively what was all of the Scn orgs in all territories outside of the USA, but excluded the USA :D Curious.
On the point that the SA entity can't be hit for violations in the UK . . . er um, yes it can . . . but only its operations etc in the territory where it is found guilty of misconduct would be penalized. As a legal issue, it is the SA entity that is registered to act and acting in the UK, and there is the additional twist that it is also a member of of the SA "College" that is operating in the territory (in this case under discussion, the UK) A judgment against it in the UK may not have any force in SA, but it certainly will have in the UK.
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Hi Guys.
The following six people, each would be able to provide many of the answers to the questions we have, concerning COSRECI. Let’s see if we can track one of them down.
Of course, some of them may have passed on. Let’s see what we can do.
COSRECI Registration in the UK in March 1977
Judith Anne Tampion Presenter
William Wilson (Australian) Director
3 Weaver Ayenue
Richmond,
South Australia
(Applied Scholastics)
Margaret Daphne Naulty (Giles) (Australian) Director
13 Eyre Street,
Sea View Downs,
South Australia
(Narconon)
Ronald Oswald Parfitt (British) Secretary
Jolleys Boat House,
Jolleys Lane,
City Bridge,
Adelaide,
South Australia
I suspect Wilson, Naulty, and Parfitt would be in their late fifties or older.
From US Court records in 1987
John Fox (US Resident/Citizen) COSRECI Spokesman
Sheila Chaleff (US Resident/Citizen) COSRECI Managing Director
Regards, David.
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Judy Tampion was back on staff at AOSH ANZO as of a few years ago. Maybe she could be asked during the next protest?![]()