Study Tech in the RO

[Amadeus Einstein]

I might have misduplicated, but I think I read a post somewhere in which the author said in the Ron's Org they use some kind of "accelerated learning" steps, either with or in place of regular study tech.

Does anyone have data on this?

[Steven James]

As far as I know, this is not true. I used study tech per Student Hat both in my local RO and at two large training camps I attended. Clay, demo kits and dictionaries were all in use.

[haiqu]

I might have misduplicated, but I think I read a post somewhere in which the author said in the Ron's Org they use some kind of "accelerated learning" steps, either with or in place of regular study tech.

Does anyone have data on this?

That was I. Some practitioners of CBR's extended bridge have used alternative study methods including the use of big charts, student interaction, multiple sensory input, lots of mass as they study (by making their own meter cans, for example) and ensuring that the group as a whole gets the idea of what needs to be done on the next level. I have examples of this on video tape. I must add, however, that the guy delivering this was a trained and experienced course supervisor, and is very aware of the phenomena relating to students getting lost.

haiqu

[EU-Exxxy]

Hey haiqu,

You are talking BS. I am on line at a RonsOrg in Europe. We are using 100 % Study-Tech not less and not more. What you are telling is just a lie.

It is amazing how much BS about the Ronsorg is spread around here in this ESMB.

The difference between this ESMB and RonsOrg is: RO is not talking so much about Scientology but applying it in 100 % standard Tech and most of the people here are just talking and not applying anything right.

By the way RO is the largest and most successful group within the Freezone. That might be the reason that everybody is attempting to slander this group.

[Voltaire's Child]

The difference between ESMB and RO is that ESMB is a discussion group re Scientology and the latter is a network of places to study Scn outside CofS.

[Kathy (ImOut)]

The RO that I'm familiar with uses charts and what not to get thru the theory materials, not only faster but with much more duplication. I think the Freezone and RO are not all doing the exact same thing. Not for certain of that, other than what I read. One poster is saying X and another poster is saying Y.

And no one needs to call anyone a liar. Just because one person experiences X at RO in the US, doesn't mean that the other person is going to experience the exact same thing at RO in Australia.

[uniquemand]

Hey haiqu,

You are talking BS. I am on line at a RonsOrg in Europe. We are using 100 % Study-Tech not less and not more. What you are telling is just a lie.

It is amazing how much BS about the Ronsorg is spread around here in this ESMB.

The difference between this ESMB and RonsOrg is: RO is not talking so much about Scientology but applying it in 100 % standard Tech and most of the people here are just talking and not applying anything right.

By the way RO is the largest and most successful group within the Freezone. That might be the reason that everybody is attempting to slander this group.

Hey, that sounds like the same reason the Church of Scientology is attacked, right? Because they are big and successful and a threat to entrenched interests?

Errr... no, it's the crazy cultishness, dude.

[Dulloldfart]

You are talking BS. I am on line at a RonsOrg in Europe. We are using 100 % Study-Tech not less and not more.

What do you call 100% Study Tech? Examples:

Clearing words per HCOB CLEARING WORDS. Finding the definition that fits in the context, clearing that definition, using the word in that sense in as many sentences as it takes to fully get it, repeat for every single definition clearing mu's in that definition too, clear derivation, clear synonym study or usage notes. Do you do that?

Word Clearing Method 4. Do you do that per the HCOB?

Word Clearing Method 2. Do you do that per the HCOB?

Student Points. Do you count and graph those each study period?

Are courses run per the HCOB COURSES THEIR IDEAL SCENE and HCO PL WHAT IS A COURSE? Including scheduling, not letting people into the courseroom to bother students during scheduled course time, not letting students roam around?

How about the verbal tech HCOBs? Are those totally in?

I have a proper 20-point checklist at http://fzglobal.org/supassessment.htm, that anyone can use to gauge a percentage of points in to see how close to 100% it is. Some of those points are:

1. Sup is Pro Word Clearer certificate trained or full equivalent if supervising professionally.

2. Sup is HPCSC certificate trained or full equivalent if supervising

10. Sup insists each student learn thorough study tech, i.e. Student Hat or full equivalent, before starting on Academy Level-type training or Solo levels, and apply it correctly on courses thereafter professionally.

12. Sup insists all checkouts are tough and drills are done to their full result and neither are skimped or brushed off. Sup writes pink sheets daily (would include ones with no assignment if none needed).

16. Sup knows the Supervisor's Code verbatim by number and could quote any point at any time without hesitation.

Run through that checklist and see if all 20 points are 100% in, then you could say in good faith that 100% Standard Tech exists in that courseroom at that time. Note that one of the points is having HCOB CTIS and WIAC PL fully in, so you would need to have those issues in hand to check over too before saying they are in (unless you can quote each of them verbatim).

Paul

[Terril park]

The RO that I'm familiar with uses charts and what not to get thru the theory materials, not only faster but with much more duplication. I think the Freezone and RO are not all doing the exact same thing. Not for certain of that, other than what I read. One poster is saying X and another poster is saying Y.

And no one needs to call anyone a liar. Just because one person experiences X at RO in the US, doesn't mean that the other person is going to experience the exact same thing at RO in Australia.

The only example of this I heard of was Marianne Hagen using charts
in lectures in the USA. Long time since I did the student hat, but I don't
see how that would be a violation of study tech. LRH used blackboards on occasion. A small diagram in a book, a big one on a chart. I don't see much
difference.

[Leon]

What do you call 100% Study Tech? Examples:

Clearing words per HCOB CLEARING WORDS. Finding the definition that fits in the context, clearing that definition, using the word in that sense in as many sentences as it takes to fully get it, repeat for every single definition clearing mu's in that definition too, clear derivation, clear synonym study or usage notes. Do you do that?

Word Clearing Method 4. Do you do that per the HCOB?

Word Clearing Method 2. Do you do that per the HCOB?

Student Points. Do you count and graph those each study period?

Are courses run per the HCOB COURSES THEIR IDEAL SCENE and HCO PL WHAT IS A COURSE? Including scheduling, not letting people into the courseroom to bother students during scheduled course time, not letting students roam around?

How about the verbal tech HCOBs? Are those totally in?

I have a proper 20-point checklist at http://fzglobal.org/supassessment.htm, that anyone can use to gauge a percentage of points in to see how close to 100% it is. Some of those points are:

1. Sup is Pro Word Clearer certificate trained or full equivalent if supervising professionally.

2. Sup is HPCSC certificate trained or full equivalent if supervising

10. Sup insists each student learn thorough study tech, i.e. Student Hat or full equivalent, before starting on Academy Level-type training or Solo levels, and apply it correctly on courses thereafter professionally.

12. Sup insists all checkouts are tough and drills are done to their full result and neither are skimped or brushed off. Sup writes pink sheets daily (would include ones with no assignment if none needed).

16. Sup knows the Supervisor's Code verbatim by number and could quote any point at any time without hesitation.

Run through that checklist and see if all 20 points are 100% in, then you could say in good faith that 100% Standard Tech exists in that courseroom at that time. Note that one of the points is having HCOB CTIS and WIAC PL fully in, so you would need to have those issues in hand to check over too before saying they are in (unless you can quote each of them verbatim).

Paul

I have a question for you, Paul.

Do you believe the supervisor should be a graduate of the course he is supervising - alternatively, he should know their materials down pat, or does he only need to know supervisor tech?

What's your view on thins?