True Believers and the "present"

[Mick Wenlock]

In thumbing through Hoffer's book I came across this:

The reason that the inferior elements of a nation can exert a marked influence on its course is that they are wholly without reverence toward the present.

I have always been turned off by Hubbard's sneering toward the present state of civilization in the world (or 'wog society') and this quote seemed to explain some part of why that is.

[Alanzo]

In thumbing through Hoffer's book I came across this:



I have always been turned off by Hubbard's sneering toward the present state of civilization in the world (or 'wog society') and this quote seemed to explain some part of why that is.

I was looking around, hoping to find an online version of the book.

I found a few good websites that quote him.

Here's a good one:

In his classic book on mass religious movements, The True Believer, Eric Hoffer wrote:

Hatred is the most accessible and comprehensive of all unifying agents. It pulls and whirls the individual away from his own self, makes him oblivious of his weal and future, frees him of jealousies and self-seeking. He becomes an anonymous particle quivering with a craving to fuse and coalesce with his like into one flaming mass. Heine suggests that what Christian love cannot do is effected by a common hatred.1
Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a God, but never without belief in a devil. Usually the strength of a mass movement is proportionate to the vividness and tangibility of its devil. When Hitler was asked whether he thought the Jew must be destroyed, he answered: "No.... We should have then to invent him. It is essential to have a tangible enemy, not merely an abstract one."2 F.A. Voigt tells of a Japanese mission that arrived in Berlin in 1932 to study the National Socialist movement. Voigt asked a member of the mission what he thought of the movement. He replied: "It is magnificent. I wish we could have something like it in Japan, only we can't, because we haven't got any Jews."3

"The Psychs", anyone?

[Snuffy]

Absolutely.

[Lulu Belle]

Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a God, but never without belief in a devil. Usually the strength of a mass movement is proportionate to the vividness and tangibility of its devil. When Hitler was asked whether he thought the Jew must be destroyed, he answered: "No.... We should have then to invent him. It is essential to have a tangible enemy, not merely an abstract one."

Wow.

That's very interesting. I've never heard that before.

[SchwimmelPuckel]

Hubturd was a master of the prügelknabe tech.. Or scapegoat tech.

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[nexus100]

I was looking around, hoping to find an online version of the book.

I found a few good websites that quote him.

Here's a good one:

In his classic book on mass religious movements, The True Believer, Eric Hoffer wrote:

Hatred is the most accessible and comprehensive of all unifying agents. It pulls and whirls the individual away from his own self, makes him oblivious of his weal and future, frees him of jealousies and self-seeking. He becomes an anonymous particle quivering with a craving to fuse and coalesce with his like into one flaming mass. Heine suggests that what Christian love cannot do is effected by a common hatred.1
Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a God, but never without belief in a devil. Usually the strength of a mass movement is proportionate to the vividness and tangibility of its devil. When Hitler was asked whether he thought the Jew must be destroyed, he answered: "No.... We should have then to invent him. It is essential to have a tangible enemy, not merely an abstract one."2 F.A. Voigt tells of a Japanese mission that arrived in Berlin in 1932 to study the National Socialist movement. Voigt asked a member of the mission what he thought of the movement. He replied: "It is magnificent. I wish we could have something like it in Japan, only we can't, because we haven't got any Jews."3

"The Psychs", anyone?

Agreed, adding that the Church's Jews are suppressives as a whole. There is validity in tackling people who want to drug kids for being kids. But the suppressive card allows anyone to be nailed anytime-if the nailee is willing to buy into the claptrap that COS owns their "next hundred million."

[Alan]

I was looking around, hoping to find an online version of the book.

I found a few good websites that quote him.

Here's a good one:

In his classic book on mass religious movements, The True Believer, Eric Hoffer wrote:

Hatred is the most accessible and comprehensive of all unifying agents. It pulls and whirls the individual away from his own self, makes him oblivious of his weal and future, frees him of jealousies and self-seeking. He becomes an anonymous particle quivering with a craving to fuse and coalesce with his like into one flaming mass. Heine suggests that what Christian love cannot do is effected by a common hatred.1

Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a God, but never without belief in a devil. Usually the strength of a mass movement is proportionate to the vividness and tangibility of its devil. When Hitler was asked whether he thought the Jew must be destroyed, he answered: "No.... We should have then to invent him. It is essential to have a tangible enemy, not merely an abstract one

"The Psychs", anyone?

[/SIZE]

Hubbard was very aware of the above - he mentions this concept on several tapes.

In order to have a Game you must have an opponent.

The more charged a case is - the more opponents they have - it is a dwindling scale of opponency.

Most of Hubbards tapes are attack tapes - in which he selects different opponents.

As I was at the majority of his live lectures - I found that my case would stall unless I indicated the "wrong items" that Hubbard gave me during his lectures.

I found that by the end of the week I would be anti-almost everything.

So on Friday me and my co-audit partner would run: During the week has anyone given you a wrong opponent?

Kept me and my partner much saner.

Alan

[Div6]

Hubbard was very aware of the above - he mentions this concept on several tapes.

In order to have a Game you must have an opponent.

The more charged a case is - the more opponents they have - it is a dwindling scale of opponency.

Most of Hubbards tapes are attack tapes - in which he selects different opponents.

As I was at the majority of his live lectures - I found that my case would stall unless I indicated the "wrong items" that Hubbard gave me during his lectures.

I found that by the end of the week I would be anti-almost everything.

So on Friday me and my co-audit partner would run: During the week has anyone given you a wrong opponent?

Kept me and my partner much saner.

Alan

Wow....that should be asked of every Acad\BC student every week....lessee, we got marcabs, psychs, govt agents, suppressives, low toned people, wifes, husbands, implanters, implantee's, pts'es.......

Also gives some insight into the "suppress a rock" command......


OF course, as I have said elsewhere, de-ptsing people is not in the best interest of those the people are actually PTS to....


And if you have been in Scn for any length of time, Hoffer's book is a must read. I keep a copy in the loo just to remind me...

[Nec_V20]

Time for "Guess the Quote":

But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.

... the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

[Alanzo]

Time for "Guess the Quote":

L Ron Hoover?