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[Jachs]

Give the man TIME, Jachss99 - SHEESH!! An A - E takes a bit...

15 years though guanoloco, hes been climbing mountains, while beans and rice and bunk beds are on offer.

and he never mentioned the tech masters , anyone would think the man didnt know about the research auditors who blazed the path.

Maybe they never did exist, maybe its all lies?

[guanoloco]

Here's some favs of mine:

It's time to leave Scientology when....

Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology

Books Scientology Doesn't Want You To Read

[Jachs]

That is alot to confront for a 100% on source technician.

ESMB can be a very bumpy ride, like a 3 year old rodeo rider on broncos would have on his specially made saddle on the 1/4 of montana ranch with the blackfoot Indian chief watching him.

Im so glad Dan Sherman gives us the facts with a straight face.

[Jachs]

XII

Bruce Glushakow Ex Sea Org Class XII

"If you want to fix something, you fix it. Sometimes it takes some time. So you persist. Saying you blew because you want to fix something is at best hypocritical. If your aim is to fix something, you don’t blow.

If you get tired of trying, you can leave, but that doesn’t grant any license to destroy the whole game. When a recent Secretary of the U.S. Treasury resigned from government service because he was unable to fix the American economy, he didn’t up and join Al Qaeda"

Secretary of the US treasury wasnt put into Guantanamo bay for a high crime of putting a comma out of place, or resigning, he didnt have a billion year contract, wasnt intimidated to abort babies, was paid 250k per year plus travel allowance, didnt need to pay back for any training he did, didnt have restricted time with his kids, the president didnt beat him up, he wasnt shunned, written out of history for changing policy, in fact democratically was allowed to change brutal policy. yeah its the same deal , so alot of a=a=a=a.

[deddemv]

Pardon the interruption; i have nothing to add, but must post two posts before I can post a new post. ("I post two posts in time of peace, and two in times of war...") Anyway, just trying to find any exes from Mountain View.

[theoriginalblankman]

This is my first post as well, I haven't much to add either; but thanks for all the thread information. It's good to see something like this is out there.

[Panda Termint]

to ESMB!

[Veda]

Here are two items, one a thread, the other some videos. The videos - concerning events of the 1970s - are a somewhat more complete version of an old '60 Minutes' program:

Firstly, the lie that "Hubbard cancelled disconnection in 1968" is addressed (the thread can be accessed by clicking the horizontal arrows)...

Xenu 3 hours ago in reply to Sketto:

Since I worked for HCO [Hubbard Communications Office] during the 1970s, I'd thought I'd chime in with what I personally witnessed during those years.

Hubbard actually did cancel disconnection, after Australia had cracked down, and New Zealand was on the verge of outlawing the cult. Not only did he cancel disconnection, but he also banned Fair Game, sec checks, and the recording of what went on in auditing sessions. Way cool, huh?

The only problem was that the policy letter cancelling those things was only issued to the New Zealand government commission that was considering the banning of Scientology. [note: It was also mentioned in a few other places, such a PR book written for Scientology, and, as I recall, an article, written by Hubbard, for the 'Mayfair', etc., and there was a show made of displaying Hubbard's 1968 faux "Reform Code" for "wogs" and "raw meat."]

I oversaw a ton of disconnection during the 1970s, and had to disconnect from a couple of people myself. I personally saw that they continued to happen at major Class IV [now called Class V] and SO [Sea Org] orgs just as they always had. Nothing changed... Sec checks and Fair Game continued, despite the wholly disingenuous sham of policy change.

Andre Tabayoyon, and various other poster here, who were in HCO in the '70s, can easily vouch for me on this...

Here's some more from Xenu over at Tony O's at the Village Voice:

...Hubbard was getting a lot of PR flack over disconnection, so he wrote a policy which would help PR a lot without changing anything significant. I'm sure it was meant to be misunderstood by outsiders...

The policy did NOT cancel disconnection, rather it said that 'disconnection as a condition' was cancelled. Now, one might well ask, WTF is 'disconnection as a condition'?

If you dig through some ancient ethics folders, you would find that they would often explicitly state that the subject of the ethics order was to disconnect from one or more other parties who would be named in the ethics order, and that reinstatement to good standing would not happen until that had been done. THAT was disconnection as a condition.

So we stopped naming names of people to be disconnected from in ethics orders. Instead, Type A PTS would be told that they had to handle or disconnect, and if handling was impossible, well, too bad! And people still had to disconnect from SPs... the Nov '68 policy had no real impact other than PR.

All of the above concern events (and Scientology doctrine) of the 1970s and 1960s (and even earlier), and are presented to counter Scientology's relentless attempts at revising history.

[Veda]

So, for all the things I got out of Scientology, I decided to make a web site. Here it is:

www.truelronhubbard.wordpress.com


This is basically a compilation of hard-to-find data I collected over a year long period where I spent about 4 days a week full-time on the net researching the cult.

I hope that I have hereby created a resource where those seeking answers can get a lot of the really important data very quickly.

The site contains some of my own ideas, but it is also compilation of ideas from many others. I have tried to list all the contributors in the "links" section, or on the page of the specific article itself. If I have left you out, please let me know and I'll correct this.

Creating the site also had its cathartic benefits. And now that it is done, well, hopefully I'm done with the cult too. It's time for me to let it go, and to carry on with my life.

I'd appreciate if you could put up a link to this site, as I really do believe that it will prove to be a valuable resource in getting the true data made broadly known.

Over and out.

Above link/site recommended.

[Gadfly]

This one is pretty good.

Scientology Breeds Fanaticism

The Three Basic Scientology Beliefs.doc‎