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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanzo View Post
    It is illegal for any group to kidnap and imprison its members.

    Period.
    Of course it is. It is abhorrent to all of us. No argument there.

    However, when it comes to a campaign to "save" one of the few who put that group there in the first place, taking precedence over the campaign to save others who didn't, it's a different story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carmel View Post
    Of course it is. It is abhorrent to all of us. No argument there.

    However, when it comes to a campaign to "save" one of the few who put that group there in the first place, taking precedence over the campaign to save others who didn't, it's a different story.
    Maybe a parralell campaign can be launched named Save the Children
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    I think it's fair to say that 'Heber' is being 'saved' by some as a poster boy/rallying point and opportunity to exploitation of what *some* Scientologists see as his 'Opinion Leader' position.

    Does that sound cynical? Sure it does.

    Yes, because of his 'celebrity' he's more valuable to people with an agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinjifar View Post
    I think it's fair to say that 'Heber' is being 'saved' by some as a poster boy/rallying point and opportunity to exploitation of what *some* Scientologists see as his 'Opinion Leader' position.

    Does that sound cynical? Sure it does.

    Yes, because of his 'celebrity' he's more valuable to people with an agenda.

    Zinj
    of course and that is why it will create movement as oposed to no movement.
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    I'm pretty sure that Heber thinks that DM is saving him from you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilla View Post
    I'm pretty sure that Heber thinks that DM is saving him from you.
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonKat View Post
    lol
    "Your Freezone stinks."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilla View Post

    I'm pretty sure that Heber thinks that DM is saving him from you.

    That post should be brilliant enough to give any "FREE HEBER" hand-wringers the Heeber Jeebies!
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    For offended Scientologists reading this blasphemy about L. Ron Hubbard---my apologies for talking about real life without lying to you, like Scientology, with goo-goo theta-talk. I know you don't have a floating needle right now. You're not supposed to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaHoax! View Post
    That post should be brilliant enough to give any "FREE HEBER" hand-wringers the Heeber Jeebies!
    Aughtta scare the behebers outta 'em!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanzo View Post
    It is illegal for any group to kidnap and imprison its members.

    Period.
    Usually.

    But, sometimes not....

    SCENARIO: A neighbor of yours hears anguished screams coming from your house. Recent news of home invasions sets them on edge and they dial 911 in case you are in trouble.

    Police arrive and nobody answers. They bust in and search your house at gunpoint, room by room.

    They find you, in the bedroom, bound and gagged and being tortured with whips by a dominatrix dressed in a leather Sea Org uniform.

    After being untied, you explain to the cops that it was just a little role-playing Bondage & Discipline between two consenting thetans...and that you do it for the pleasure of reminding yourself that you are out of Scientology.

    The cops leave because you were not kidnapped and imprisoned.

    Consenting is the key word.

    It will be no surprise if Heber knows some Scientology synonyms for that term.
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    Scientology in one word? HelluvaHoax!

    I never felt as free as when I freed myself from "Total Freedom".

    For offended Scientologists reading this blasphemy about L. Ron Hubbard---my apologies for talking about real life without lying to you, like Scientology, with goo-goo theta-talk. I know you don't have a floating needle right now. You're not supposed to.

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