Murder or Justifiable Homicide?

[Feral]

What would the ruling be likely to be should one of those humiliated, degraded and tortured "execs" in the SP hole actually snap and kill David Miscavige?

Could any prosecutor ever convict them after the cruel and unprecedented abuse they've been subjected to for years?

Events like the musical chairs incident, being forced to defaecate into plastic bags, sleep and food deprivation, , seances, water boarding and gang bang sec checks.

How could any prosecutor ever build any case against someone who might have suddenly and forcefully snapped under such incredible strain?

Don't think it could happen? Look at Rex Fowler, he wasn't under a quarter of the strain that the EX INT execs are, just look at what he (allegedly) did!

What about poor Steve Brackett? You think mere bankruptcy is comparable to what Heber, Yager, Mittoff and Leserve have had to endure?

Yet it hasn't happened, yet. Makes me wonder; what are the FBI waiting for? An actual murder? Do they want an unprecedented incident at the INT base before they act?

Well I guess if one of those guys had enough action and life left in them to rise up against the tyrant David Miscavige I think they would have an excellent entree to a full investigation to the CofS.

I would have thought it might be better to move in before another serious crime though.

Maybe if anything serious does occur at the INT base, then the Federal Government might have a case to answer.

Jus' sayin'.

[scooter]

"Justifiable homicide of David Miscavige" does have a nice ring to it. :D

[GreyWolf]

the fbi will not do anything unless the AG says so. The AG is not just a prosector but a polititian, therefore without BALLS!

[SchwimmelPuckel]

They'd cover it up.. Actuallly there's a lot of people 'missing' in scientology... Where IS Miscavige atm anyway?

Who's 'working' at the vaults? - Trementina, Petrolia.. I've wondered why we haven't heard squat about that. Those premises are large areas that are deserted. Miles from anywhere...

[Panda Termint]

Feral, I bet that thought has crossed Jesse's mind more than once.

[Kathy (ImOut)]

Considering that Int is in CA, even tho it would technically be justifiable homicide, the person would probably be prosecuted for murder. CA laws really suck on this issue. Many wives suffering years of abuse (documented) still end up in prison for killing their spouse.

[Vinaire]

Force begets force.

There is no end to this chain, unless one simply detaches oneself from it.

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[Arthur Dent]

Unfortunately, Feral, it will probably take such a murder. And then one that isn't covered up. I don't know if that even happening to DM would be enough for those at Int to run free. I suspect in the chaos and confusion someone would have the "greatest good" idea and cause it to be covered up to protect the precious church. An investigation really is needed now to break that chain of thought and prohibit this kind of treatment of people.

If new people knew of these actions of DM, would anyone join the cofs?? His actions are sickening. I cannot wait to know he's behind bars.

[scooter]

I've been mulling on this and I think it's a very real possibility - it all comes down to CONTROL.

David Miscavige thinks he's in CONTROL of the cult. But even a cursory glance says he's obviously not.

He's increasingly absent from public view, He travels only with tight (and very expensive) security arrangements in place and He's often absent from Int Base apparently.

Oh, and His beloved stats are crashing across the planet.

All that says to ANYONE who looks is "Scientology is out of control."

And David Miscavige IS Scientology per Himself and His minions.

He can't even control His temper.

So some poor beaten-down "SP" at Int (or anywhere else for that matter) finally realizes that David Miscavige has lost control and DM goads this person into an act of uncontrollable violence then "justifiable homicide of David Miscavige" becomes a media feeding frenzy around the globe.

Jees, Dave, are you really sure that all the DeathWinds crew are totally on your side?:D

You already KNOW what those SPs at Int are like - or do you?

[thetanic]

Control of others is always an illusion, especially if someone perceives they have nothing (or very little) to lose.

What's controlling the people in the hole is the fear of the loss of their eternity. If one of them reaches the point where that no longer controls them, then strange things will happen.