Sweeney on marty's Blog

[Terril park]

A poster who I can't recall any thing about, " Magpie", PMed me thus:-

"I noticed something odd in a posting of yours recently.

Specifically this: “LRH policy allows for changing and rejecting policy. This is not well known.”

Reference: Post 9, Thread Sweeney on Marty's Blog, dated 10 May 2010, Australia nonstandard time.

Terril, with all due ARC, this is a huge flagrant flub.

Specifically, this is a vague generality, and without precise LRH reference provided.

Please immediately self correct this huge flub, provide exact LRH reference, and thank you kindly.

Then celebrate year 60 of the Dianetic Era."

I've posted this quote many times.

HCOPL 13 march 1965 THE STRUCTURE OF ORGANISATION
WHAT IS POLICY.

" Periodic sweepouts of antiquated and didactic laws [ rather than general
concepts and sub purposes] MUST be undertaken by a being, organisation, group or race or species. "

One might even consider it a darwinian imperative. One that leaves feet
free of gunwounds........

[Sharone Stainforth]

This may not be popular, and actually I don't care what it is popular or not.

LRH, or more commonly known as the old man is known didn't give a fig or even an olive leave if what he purported as the truth was true or not, as long as he made money.

The Marty Rathbuns of this world and the Terril Parks can promote the what is true for you is true till they are blue in the face, it is not the true scienentology.

Scientology is a mish mash of other beliefs, thrown together to make a 'belief' that we know what we are talking about. No, you do not.

I don't care whether or not you are totaliterian in your beliefs. I just know that all the works, written policies,books,affirmations, anything in fact written by L. Ron Hubbard are a total load of bullshit aimed at making vulnerable people compliant so as to maintain Keep Scientology Working.

The only way Scientology works is to keep deluding people, whether inside the so called "church" or out of it.

If John Sweeney wants to follow this delusion, then that is up to him. I don't have that kind of power, that the media can generate. Will I ever support the freezone? No, I will not, because it sustains the same bullshit that LRH generated and caused the destruction of so many people.

Knowing of all the abuse in Scientology that so many people have suffered, how the hell can anyone still support this charade?

Oh, I'm a freezoner and we don't follow disconnection, we don't have Ethics like in the "church". Well, if thats the case, you do not follow scientology, so why the hell do you call yourselves Scientologists?

L. Ron Hubbard would have been disgusted that you do not follow orders.

The freezone is even more of a sham than Scientology, because it accuses Scientology of destruction of a religion that never even existed.How deluded can you get?

I take all of this with a pinch of salt, If John Sweeney wants to spend his time following the freezoners take of things then good luck to him, will he have my support. No.

Why?Because its just more bullshit following bullshit. Period!

[Doom]

It was OSA showed up at his home trying to intimidate him. You've just seen the video evidence. My guess is that they knew John Sweeney was there and tried to intimidate him also.

We've recently seen details of the ambushing of Mike Rinder. Marty has
made many statements about OSA following him around, visiting him and his friends and trying to intimidate them also.

Its clear that Marty and Mike are the top OSA targets. Targets of the
Keystone Kult! Meanwhile they are demonstrating that the pen is greater than the PI.

Hope you have the popcorn ready when Panorama airs.

Terril I have no doubt that this stuff happened, what I am saying is to marty more than to you (hate this Via bull shit) is simple "Whole truth or GTFO", he Knows way more than he is telling and thats why OSA still follows, he has still a lot more to say and reveal than he has (maybe this will happen in panorama but on current stats maybe not).

Everyday he delays more people are hurt by the cult.

Oh and yeah I'll have my popcorn ready but the champagne will wait till the cult falls on daveys head.

[Dulloldfart]

Thank you, Veda. And I'll go re-read The Onion.

For the benefit of anyone who might misunderstand Veda's remark, it does not refer to the satire of the popular "The Onion" website. It refers to the Scientological Onion, as described by Brian Ambry in his BRAINWASHING MANUAL PARALLELS IN SCIENTOLOGY.

The link is to a 97 page PDF (only 700KB). The Onion bit starts on page 17. It is VERY well worth reading. I've copied in the headings and sub-heads from the index. I haven't reformatted them beyond some bolding, but it should make sense.


The Layers of The "Scientological Onion" 17

Brainwashing Manual Parallels in Modern Scientology 19

Correspondences between the Brainwashing Manual and the Battle Tactics policy
On “Survival”
On Surviving the Atomic Bomb
On an individual Scientologist influencing leaders
Scientology is devious by design

Front Groups - Layer Zero of the “Scientological Onion.” 20

“It is not necessary that the term ‘Communism’ [Scientology] be applied at first…”

Layer One - The publicized portion of Scientology 23

“White Scientology”
Scenario: (An application of “White Scientology”)
“By reason alone”
Auditing

Descending into Layer Two of the “Onion”: The “In-Organization” Strata 27

“…[Scientology] under the guise of [‘White Scientology’]…”
Exploitation of the process of abreaction
Playing one thing off another or “counter-playing”
“Loaded language”: the seemingly enlightened “counter-played” with the manipulative
Tone 4, “entheta,” “theta,” Suppressive Person
The Thought Limiting clichés of Scientology
Publicized, “In-organization” and Confidential Scientology “Ethics”
“…aligning the individual against the desire not to conform…”
Side effects of “critical thoughts”
Dominion over the loyalties of individuals

Layer Three of the “Onion”: The Confidential “Upper Levels” of the “Bridge to Total Freedom” 33

“…avoid the understanding of the layman…”
Highest of the “upper levels” must remain a mystery to the membership
Operating Thetan or O.T.
Aleister Crowley, Head of the O.T.O.
O.T. III, The “Wall of Fire” into which Hubbard “took the plunge” to save Mankind
Exploitation of the paranormal

Layer Four: “…a well trained individual who serves in complete obedience…”
The Sea Organization, the Rehabilitation Project Force, and the Five Card System 36

The Sea Organization: “Custodians of the O.T. Levels”
“…the only loyalty which should exist… is to the State [Scientology].”
Sea Org Ethics under Commodore Hubbard on the Flagship
“Refusal to let them sleep over many days…”
The Rehabilitation Project Force
“Filthy food, little sleep, nearly untenable quarters…”
“…the first loyalty [to himself]… is destroyed…”
“Degradation and conquest…”
The children’s and teenagers’ RPF
“A certain amount of fear…”
The RPF’s RPF
The Five Card “Team Share” System
“The technologies of psychopolitics…”

Layer Five: Confidential Scientology Policy and Tech for “handling” uncooperative outsiders 46
The Fair Game policy and “philosophy”
“…find or manufacture enough threat…”
“Direct the attention of the authorities…”
Scientology’s unscrupulous use of the legal system
“We will no longer put up with our religion being criticized…”
Discourage inquiry
Defamatory data on file; “Culling”: Searching “religious confessional” (auditing) files for embarrassing or intimidating items
Background: The Commodore’s Intelligence Network
The policy of covert attack and publicized PR “defense lines”
Scientology’s Multi-layered Public Relations tech
Scientology Intelligence tech
Data collecting, and Attack or “support” Intelligence
Creating incidents that reflect badly on others
“Data needed by Ops on each located who”
Attack or “support” Intelligence - The Covert Ops study course and checklist
“Persons in his vicinity to whom he is emotionally involved…”
Coerce them into signing prepared “retractions” or “confessions”
Plenty of bogus “documentation”
One justification for unscrupulous covert methods
Treatment of VIPs and celebrities
Goal of talking over “mental health” and “political guidance”
Full knowledge of Intelligence tech must be denied to the general membership
“Deception, chicanery, lying, manipulation and outright criminality”
“She over there, those pink legs sticking out, didn’t like me”
Scientologists believe in a planet-wide conspiracy against L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology
The Scientology Hierarchy

Layer Six: The Core of the “Scientological Onion” 69
“…virtually a pathological liar…egotism… lust for power, and vindictiveness…”
“We must be like the vine upon the tree…”
The elusive “1000 page” official L. Ron Hubbard biography
“It’s a trap not being able to prevaricate”
Conscience as an “impediment”
The L. Ron Hubbard Fan(atic) club

Paul

[Doom]

This may not be popular, and actually I don't care what it is popular or not.

LRH, or more commonly known as the old man is known didn't give a fig or even an olive leave if what he purported as the truth was true or not, as long as he made money.

The Marty Rathbuns of this world and the Terril Parks can promote the what is true for you is true till they are blue in the face, it is not the true scienentology.

Scientology is a mish mash of other beliefs, thrown together to make a 'belief' that we know what we are talking about. No, you do not.

I don't care whether or not you are totaliterian in your beliefs. I just know that all the works, written policies,books,affirmations, anything in fact written by L. Ron Hubbard are a total load of bullshit aimed at making vulnerable people compliant so as to maintain Keep Scientology Working.

The only way Scientology works is to keep deluding people, whether inside the so called "church" or out of it.

If John Sweeney wants to follow this delusion, then that is up to him. I don't have that kind of power, that the media can generate. Will I ever support the freezone? No, I will not, because it sustains the same bullshit that LRH generated and caused the destruction of so many people.

Knowing of all the abuse in Scientology that so many people have suffered, how the hell can anyone still support this charade?

Oh, I'm a freezoner and we don't follow disconnection, we don't have Ethics like in the "church". Well, if thats the case, you do not follow scientology, so why the hell do you call yourselves Scientologists?

L. Ron Hubbard would have been disgusted that you do not follow orders.

The freezone is even more of a sham than Scientology, because it accuses Scientology of destruction of a religion that never even existed.How deluded can you get?

I take all of this with a pinch of salt, If John Sweeney wants to spend his time following the freezoners take of things then good luck to him, will he have my support. No.

Why?Because its just more bullshit following bullshit. Period!

^^^THIS^^^

[Smilla]

This may not be popular, and actually I don't care what it is popular or not.

LRH, or more commonly known as the old man is known didn't give a fig or even an olive leave if what he purported as the truth was true or not, as long as he made money.

The Marty Rathbuns of this world and the Terril Parks can promote the what is true for you is true till they are blue in the face, it is not the true scienentology.

Scientology is a mish mash of other beliefs, thrown together to make a 'belief' that we know what we are talking about. No, you do not.

I don't care whether or not you are totaliterian in your beliefs. I just know that all the works, written policies,books,affirmations, anything in fact written by L. Ron Hubbard are a total load of bullshit aimed at making vulnerable people compliant so as to maintain Keep Scientology Working.

The only way Scientology works is to keep deluding people, whether inside the so called "church" or out of it.

If John Sweeney wants to follow this delusion, then that is up to him. I don't have that kind of power, that the media can generate. Will I ever support the freezone? No, I will not, because it sustains the same bullshit that LRH generated and caused the destruction of so many people.

Knowing of all the abuse in Scientology that so many people have suffered, how the hell can anyone still support this charade?

Oh, I'm a freezoner and we don't follow disconnection, we don't have Ethics like in the "church". Well, if thats the case, you do not follow scientology, so why the hell do you call yourselves Scientologists?

L. Ron Hubbard would have been disgusted that you do not follow orders.

The freezone is even more of a sham than Scientology, because it accuses Scientology of destruction of a religion that never even existed.How deluded can you get?

I take all of this with a pinch of salt, If John Sweeney wants to spend his time following the freezoners take of things then good luck to him, will he have my support. No.

Why?Because its just more bullshit following bullshit. Period!

^^^THIS^^^

[Smilla]

I would be very very surprised if John Sweeney comes out as a supporter of the Independents/FZ. In fact I'm sure it won't happen. Don't hold your breath.

[Terril park]

Terril I have no doubt that this stuff happened, what I am saying is to marty more than to you (hate this Via bull shit) is simple "Whole truth or GTFO", he Knows way more than he is telling and thats why OSA still follows, he has still a lot more to say and reveal than he has (maybe this will happen in panorama but on current stats maybe not).

Everyday he delays more people are hurt by the cult.

Oh and yeah I'll have my popcorn ready but the champagne will wait till the cult falls on daveys head.

Going legal on COS has always been a very tough proposition.

Not an endeavor to be lightly entered into.

So far Marty has damaged COS and DM more than any single individual.

And so far he has not had to face legal attack. This is a VERY positive
plus point.

The world's most litigious organisation has not been able to use its top weapon. Because Marty has been smart.

You know the policy of using the law to Harrass. Marty has managed to side step this while giving out much damaging info. Re Lisa McPherson, physical attacks by DM, and so on. Not to mention getting Monique Yingling and Bert Fields to respond.

My thought is if he makes a mistake he could have lots of lawyers on his ass.

Don't know his strategy, not a part of his circle.

He is though winning. Maybe he's not doing what you want.

That may be a yet.

Maybe he has his reasons.

He has though it seems done what I tried many times to do. He
has the BBC via John Sweeney comment that COS is harrassing non
COS scientologists.

And they position that they are the sole protectors of religious freedom.

This is shown as complete bullshit, and may have legal implications.
But IANAL.

It is though a devastating PR blow. And parishioners will have been
told by the BBC that they CAN do scientology outside COS.

This has been done so far only by Marty's Blog. My guess is that
Panorama and Sweeney are going to go postal on COS.

Then their subsequent footbullets will be the final blow of any note
before they fade away. Hopefully with deserving people jailed.

[Zinjifar]

Marty as an 'Op' will be judged to be 'successful' if he manages to manipulate the burgeoning media interest in the 'Church' of Scientology into more or less 'harmless' curiosity and even disgust. Since there's no way Scientology can achieve acceptance or even approval, it will be considered victory to avoid any criminal or official investigation that might result in prosecution of the organization as a whole or any of its leading figures.

Slappy Miscavige is preferable to bodies.

Zinj

[Zinjifar]

So far Marty has damaged COS and DM more than any single individual.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Zinj