Shedding mental lead

[Isene]

On recovery of personal integrity.

[AnonKat]

On recovery of personal integrity.

"In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing"

Autobiography, 1959

- Mark Twain

[FinallyMe]

Twain was a genius - meaning that he DID look and think for himself!

[ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn]

Scientology is workable as long as it remains in a closed environment; which is true for all other totalitarian movements. North Korea believes it's Admin Tech is also successful. However in the real world very few people outside of the closed borders view either as being workable or successful.

The bottom line is what is the point of wasting any time with Hubbard's material, once you find out the true nature of it's purpose?

Hubbard designed his Totalitarian movement to be absolute and nonnegotiable, Once you start picking apart Scientology it is no longer Scientology, it's just an excuse to pretend Scientology is something other than it really is

[Freeminds]

Once you start picking apart Scientology it is no longer Scientology, it's just an excuse to pretend Scientology is something other than it really is.

Agreed. But we're not the only ones picking apart Scientology. Golden Age of Knowledge, updates for all the Basics books, etc., is also picking apart Scientology.

They were trying to do it to make the Tech work, which it hasn't, doesn't and won't... but once you accept the notion that Scientology (and by extension, Ron) was flawed, you have found a chink in that totalitarian armour... and that's all it takes to begin the process of waking up.

(Incidentally, if failure to KSW earns you an SP declare, where's Midget Miscavige's goldenrod?)

[ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn]

Agreed. But we're not the only ones picking apart Scientology. Golden Age of Knowledge, updates for all the Basics books, etc., is also picking apart Scientology.

They were trying to do it to make the Tech work, which it hasn't, doesn't and won't... but once you accept the notion that Scientology (and by extension, Ron) was flawed, you have found a chink in that totalitarian armour... and that's all it takes to begin the process of waking up.

(Incidentally, if failure to KSW earns you an SP declare, where's Midget Miscavige's goldenrod?)

Miscavige is the ideal leader of Scientology, he is doing exactly what Hubbard envisioned for his cult, unfortunately for him the closed island of Scientology is surrounded by oceans of truth that are keeping the cult from attracting more potential victims to the island.

[Zinjifar]

Had Scientology really managed to Clear the Planet it could have been the kind of successful 'closed' system it needs to be. Everyone could trade out fantasy stats and wins and unhappiness would be treated by well-intentioned Ethics Officers who would universally bring the holdouts 'up tone'.

Except, of course, for the 2.5% who hate success. And, Scientology can take care of them, if there are no Wogs who need to be placated and no need for a Shore Story.

Come to think of it, Pol Pot's Cambodia might have been able to make its 'New Man' and North Korea could be a juche paradise. And the USSR could have been the World of happiness too.

If only they could exist in a closed system.

Zinj

[John Lyle]

"In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing"

Autobiography, 1959

- Mark Twain

Farting brass? What, like a French horn?

[Mystic]

I often think George Carlin was an extension of Mark Twain.

[GreyWolf]

Ah. When the scales start to fall. Welcome to the darkside ol' buddy.