The Reg Corner

[looker]

Well there is this story I found once on the FCDC thread (I know I'm a slacker for not finding the reference, but it was last year some time) Maybe it was US SAM or a reply to US Sam. Or Lakey. I dunt remember.

Any way The way I remember it was, (highly Paraphrased):

There was this guy who was relatively new had done TRs and some auditing training (eye dialation) and read the Obnosis HCOBs. He came on staff and had some really good success at reging hard cases. It may have been NY or DC or LA, any way, The disseminator/Body routers had brought in this guy about 1970 something.

The Raw Meat guy had went through the intro Lecture. The newish reg was talking to the guy about his ruins and his desire to fix his life. The ruins for this guy were about being thrown out from his house, Divorced from his wife and homeless living in his car. He also had "indicators" that showed he hated his life and surviving on the street and having to do things he was not proud of.

The reg said yes I know how it is! A year ago I was on the street too. I was so down I had nothing and was going through dumpsters. I had to give hand jobs to perverted guys on the street just to be able to buy food. (It was a total Lie)

The New guy lightened up and indicated. The Reg got him to sell his car for the Comm Course, and other stuff, got him a place to sleep on the floor and got the guy totally IN but totally broke with the only place to go was on staff.

Good or bad its a slice of life....Hopefully they are both out know and much more savvy.

[Commander Birdsong]

I know, I know - if I hadn't been such a panty waiste dillitante, I would have handled that fucking guy and gotten the product!

Exactly what my "product officer" said to me in front of all the other regges after he was dead!

jesus!

you're shitting me

no. you're not. i was trying for some playful lighthearted ironic gallows humor but "with scientology it's always worse than you think." jesus! a big part of how they get away with their crap is people think you're telling jokes when you tell them what happens.

the stupid CoSuckers don't even understand their own tech. yes. you get pc's and students to stop using recreational drugs. no. you don't make them stop necessary medication

%&*#^@ $$$$$$#*@%*# %^&@&#*%@ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Markus]

My hope for this thread is to gather stories about registration, primarily from the regges themselves.

If you want to post a story of being regged, that's Ok too, but I'm hoping to get more of them from the perspective of the people who had to "produce" these "products".

An honest airing of the things that happened within Div 6 and Div 2 should be instructive to everyone.

Just to get the ball rolling, here's one:

I’m at Flag regging donations. A guy shows up from Germany. After he settled in for a few days in the HGC and started to have some wins (this was and is carefully monitored by Registration), my boss told me to get him briefed up and regged to donate a large chunk.

So I wander down to the HGC (in these days it was in the Cabannas along side the swimming pool at the FH) to locate the guy. He comes out of session and while he’s waiting in the HGC waiting room, I slide alongside and start the ball rolling.

I noticed he was moving his tongue around a lot in his mouth and I asked about it. He said that he’d had a “small epileptic fit” the night before and had bit his tongue a bit. He stuck it out to show me and it was ASTONISHING! The left 25% of his tongue (front to back) was just flattened – and I mean FLATTENED.

I asked if it hurt and should ne not see a doctor. He said it was getting better.

I asked if he had any medication to use to prevent another episode. As I remember it, he said, “No, the C/S and I are working out a handling so I never have to take the medicine again.”

I thought this was strange, but I was there to ask him for a donation.

A few moments later, the Board IC told him that he would be first up the next day, so he should go to bed right away. I asked him if he would stay up and talk to me. He said no, but that he was interested in my project and would love to hear more about it in the morning, right after his first session. So we made an appointment.

Later that night at product conference, my senior verbally “beat the shit out of me” for not getting the cycle done that night. But I went to bed happy that I had a “good cycle” for the next morning. If I got it wrapped up before the 1:00pm product conference, I would be vindicated!

Next morning around 10:00am I wandered down to the HGC looking for my guy. There was a bit of commotion going on near the board, so I elbowed my way in to see what was going on. One of the hotel staff (Flag Crew reg – who was also at the product conference the night before) told me that my guy was dead – died in bed in his room in the night – from (of all things) an epileptic seizure.

So now I end up at the 1:00pm product conference and in front of all the other regges get “dressed down” by the same product officer – BIG TIME.
Another reg that was there who happened to be from the same country as the dead guy says something like, “What an asshole, that guy always was Dev-T”.

I never mentioned the conversation I had with this prospect the night before. I may have been the last person he ever spoke to.

But I’m doing it now.

Here he is:

Heribert Pfaff, 31 by NewYorker3, on Flickr

His story here: http://whyaretheydead.info/room758.html

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[Idle Morgue]

This is probably one the best threads I have ever read - I mean this is unreal! Thank you - it is making so much sense. I was told FRAUD SCAM BASE stopped the regging in the MAA Dept - but I can see this has been going on for years and years and years.

Please - any of you that were regges - please post it all - this could be one of the most helpful threads for any lurkers out there due to the constant crush regging in the Church of Scientology.

Everyone experiences the crush regging and will find various justifications for the behavior. After a while - it gets really crazy. So please post everything you can tell here - this may be the truth thread that sets being free forever!!

THANK YOU everyone who is posting on this thread!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU !!!!

[onthepes]

MY 2 HOURS AS A REG.
(aka "How I spent my Summer Vacation crush regging for postulate checks on freaked-out public.")

I didn't do it! Please say I didn't do it!

Shit. I did it.

Got ripped out of the safety of the Tech Division for a few hours--on command from a Flag Mission who orderered all S.O. staff to man a mandatory event for all public.

The doors were guarded ("locked").

No one was to leave until the prospect wrote a check, even a postulate check which they were expected to cover.

Hideous.

I followed orders, the penalties being to grim too consider to not try to help Clearing the planet (and their bank accounts) for Ron.

I think I actually got some person to write a check.

I never heard anything about it again and never asked.

FuckingCringe!

Postulate Checks. Made good by what--I guess--Postulate Deposits?

Then the bank sends Postulate Overdraft Notices in the theta universe?

Why do people want to go up the Bridge again? There was a reason, I just can't remember what in the world they had in mind....

I so hear this one Hellavahoax. I recall trying to get people to an IAS event. Everyone knew there would be regging. I used to hate that part so much. I spoke to a public who had already donated a shitload to Scientology. She said she did not want to come as staff and Sea Org guard the doors and the exits, making sure nobody would leave. I agreed with her that that was weird. I had not seen it for a while. However, that night we had the ED Abel (sorry if I got that wrong), strutting around saying "make sure nobody leaves". The doors were closed. Public were confronted by her when they tried to leave . "Where are you going?". Public - "Just out for a smoke". (you had to lie to get out of it). They would go outside. ED Abel said to me "Make sure he does not leave". God, I cringe. Later that night the main Reg who had arrived from Sydney was sitting across from this lady. I will call her Judy (not real name). She had donated over a quarter of a million to the IAS. This guy was just at her and at her. I had already locked up and done my report. A Sea Org member was standing behind me. I will never forget this, and my heart breaks recounting it (by the way I thought the world of this guy). But he mumbles "You got the money, just give it over you bitch". Thank god she had not heard him. I am sure we have all had those nights here where we just wanted to go home but there would be a "cycle" still going on. Now I have to go vomit.

[HelluvaHoax!]

I so hear this one Hellavahoax. I recall trying to get people to an IAS event. Everyone knew there would be regging. I used to hate that part so much. I spoke to a public who had already donated a shitload to Scientology. She said she did not want to come as staff and Sea Org guard the doors and the exits, making sure nobody would leave. I agreed with her that that was weird. I had not seen it for a while. However, that night we had the ED Abel (sorry if I got that wrong), strutting around saying "make sure nobody leaves". The doors were closed. Public were confronted by her when they tried to leave . "Where are you going?". Public - "Just out for a smoke". (you had to lie to get out of it). They would go outside. ED Abel said to me "Make sure he does not leave". God, I cringe. Later that night the main Reg who had arrived from Sydney was sitting across from this lady. I will call her Judy (not real name). She had donated over a quarter of a million to the IAS. This guy was just at her and at her. I had already locked up and done my report. A Sea Org member was standing behind me. I will never forget this, and my heart breaks recounting it (by the way I thought the world of this guy). But he mumbles "You got the money, just give it over you bitch". Thank god she had not heard him. I am sure we have all had those nights here where we just wanted to go home but there would be a "cycle" still going on. Now I have to go vomit.

Awful stuff!

After i left the SO I was public and invited to a "celeb" VIP briefing by an actress friend of mine. It quickly became a reg event and so I stood up and walked out. A Sea Org enforcer chased after me (outside the venue) ordering me to go back in. I kept walking. It was about to become a shitstorm but I was not going back in for ANY reason whatsoever. The actress rushed outside and calmed the tracking dog down and he retreated. Rock Celeb breaks Scissors Sea Org Member. That was the last event of any kind I ever went to.

Later there was the "mandatory" orders to attend the "crusade" out of state and later still the "mandatory" event where dead Ron was celebrated as the ultimate OT. I missed both those, figuring that I was obviously an anti-social personality but at that point I didn't give a damn.

My own 2 hours as a "postulate check" registrar shows me that normal people can be turned into cult animals fairly easily.

I'd have a lot of BPC (By Passed Cringe) if I cared about Scientology.

I never liked circus clowns and I don't feel any need to like the clowns of Scientology either.

[onthepes]

There was this guy who was relatively new had done TRs and some auditing training (eye dialation) and read the Obnosis HCOBs.

[Student of Trinity]

How many registrars are Sea Org? Would a Sea Org registrar even profit personally from bringing in money? I understand normal staff reges get a cut.

I can sort of understand Sea Org folks having no mercy on rich public. When you're living in bad quarters on bad food and making too little money to wash your clothes, all for the greater glory of Scientology, then you probably don't really weep inside too hard if somebody with a big house and a pool gets the cost of a second home squeezed out of them. In fact it would probably be hard to squeeze any public below the miserable financial level of the Sea Org themselves.

[onthepes]

i don't think they get anything out of it. Possibly they get left alone by their seniors a bit more. That Sea Org member I mentioned previously in this post - who I will call K - would turn our Org around for the better financially time and again. He actually kept us alive. Yet, I heard him on the phone to his Senior, away in the corner of the Org, saying "Yes, yes, I understand. I bought a couple of pies that day, I have the receipts here. Yes, I know. That's fair enough". He was basically having to justify the fact he had 2 pies for lunch. I felt awful for K. He was very well liked.

[degraded being]

How many registrars are Sea Org? Would a Sea Org registrar even profit personally from bringing in money? I understand normal staff reges get a cut.

I can sort of understand Sea Org folks having no mercy on rich public. When you're living in bad quarters on bad food and making too little money to wash your clothes, all for the greater glory of Scientology, then you probably don't really weep inside too hard if somebody with a big house and a pool gets the cost of a second home squeezed out of them. In fact it would probably be hard to squeeze any public below the miserable financial level of the Sea Org themselves.

i don't think they get anything out of it. Possibly they get left alone by their seniors a bit more. That Sea Org member I mentioned previously in this post - who I will call K - would turn our Org around for the better financially time and again. He actually kept us alive. Yet, I heard him on the phone to his Senior, away in the corner of the Org, saying "Yes, yes, I understand. I bought a couple of pies that day, I have the receipts here. Yes, I know. That's fair enough". He was basically having to justify the fact he had 2 pies for lunch. I felt awful for K. He was very well liked.

In the early 80s I think they were definitely getting commisions, and I think there was talk here about all the commissions Debbie Cook got when she was in the SO...and bought a fancy car with some of it.