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    Lightbulb The Betrayal of Bob Minton

    WTF, Arnie lerma 'splain plox

    http://www.lermanet.com/cisar/recog/betrayal.htm

    In Fall 2001, Deanna Holmes and several other people were busy annoying Bob Minton by publicly deriding him on the alt.religion.scientology news group. This annoyed Minton, and he complained about it to several people. One of those he complained to was Ken Dandar, lawyer for the Lisa McPherson estate in a wrongful death lawsuit against Scientology. Dandar, in turn, told the news group posters that they were annoying Minton, and the negative postings subsequently stopped. This was adequate proof for the Mintons that Dandar had control over the annoying postings. Mintons, as in two of them. Another person Minton told about this was a woman by the name of Therese Minton, his wife.

    Years ago, Minton gave Scientology what it needed to stop him from funding anti-Scientology litigation. As long as his wife continued to give him her support, he would continue. Despite many difficulties, Therese stuck with Bob, just so long as he remained a man of principle.

    The principles fell apart in February 2002. Dandar told Minton the McPherson case needed more money if it was to continue. Minton hesitated, but finally relented with a check for $300,000. As it turned out, that was the straw that broke the camel's back. The Mintons, and others by now, suspected that Dandar both had control over those who were disparaging the McPherson estate's benefactor, and that Dandar was mismanaging the McPherson case.

    In short, by giving people who publicly reviled him that much money, Minton was both supporting unprincipled behavior and exercising poor judgment in handling the Mintons' money. Therese gave the ultimatum: get the money back or stop the fight. Minton argued but lost. He asked Dandar to return the money, but the lawyer said it had already been spent. That left Bob one path to saving his married life. Seek settlement. He approached Scientology leader Mike Rinder with a heavy heart but was fully resigned to the task at hand.

    As a matter of fact, Rinder already had a precondition. Minton would have to make a clean breast of the Lisa McPherson case. Minton was shocked that Rinder knew enough to make this allusion. It turned out Minton had falsified a statement he made for the McPherson case. Minton was to later assert that not only was Ken Dandar privy to his misconduct, but had encouraged him. Rinder, Minton was convinced, had to have had an inside informant and who else, Minton wandered out loud in his testimony, but Patricia Greenway would have means, motive and opportunity to do so.

    This brought the millionaire to a realization. If he had not approached Rinder to settle his differences with Scientology, then Scientology would have had the equivalent of blackmail material on him. This would have been especially significant after Scientology settled the McPherson case. Besides the millions he had already given Dandar, the anti-Scientology crusader would have been liable to the cult for millions more. In reality, whatever the McPherson case was settled for would likely have come from Minton's own pocket via Scientology.

    Minton breathed a heavy sigh of relief and let Dandar know that he was going to testify against him for Scientology. The suspicions that Dandar was an unprincipled man were soon confirmed. The slanderous campaign against Minton was renewed within days. It started with malicious speculation, and eventually transcended the bounds of common sense almost completely into the realm of the fantastic. When the legal situation demanded the fantastic accusations against Minton come to an end in the United States, responsibility for the false accusations was merely shifted overseas. Within weeks Martin Ottmann came up with an unbelievably distorted list of wrongoing that easily competed with Scientology's earlier allegations against Minton of moneylaundering.
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    Oh goody. Yet another moron who wants to re-fight the Minton Wars. Not Arnie meant here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinjifar View Post
    Oh goody. Yet another moron who wants to re-fight the Minton Wars. Not Arnie meant here.

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    Can you rephrase what you ment. Use more words please. Why is this on Arnie Lerma's website than ?
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    I assume it's there because it is or was Arnie's opinion. Why's it *here*?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinjifar View Post
    I assume it's there because it is or was Arnie's opinion. Why's it *here*?

    Zinj
    Well Ken Dandar isn't coming out to well in Arnie's opinion. Zinj are you and Arnie at ods with eachother ?

    Ken Dandar popped up in the current wrongfull death case.
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    Why drag up some old drama? Bored? Go send some e-mails to some polititians or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byte301 View Post
    Why drag up some old drama? Bored? Go send some e-mails to some polititians or something.
    They are all having tea with the queen at the moment bawwing about who deserves to be in goverment.

    Alsoo KEN DANDAR
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonKat View Post
    They are all having tea with the queen at the moment bawwing about who deserves to be in goverment.

    Alsoo KEN DANDAR
    So write some to the Canadian pols. Or better yet the U.S. pols. We don't have a Queen so you can't use that excuse. We do have a lot of court jesters though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byte301 View Post
    So write some to the Canadian pols. Or better yet the U.S. pols. We don't have a Queen so you can't use that excuse. We do have a lot of court jesters though.
    LOL Dutch Queen not the UK Queen and yes I like Jesters , they tend to wear Guy Fawkes Masks these days mocking sone kind of "church"
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    A snippet from today, posted to Mark Fisher's notes page on his facebook
    http://www.facebook.com/notes.php?id...app_2347471856

    David Lebow.. let me count the ways...
    a) played a homeless guy at 1997 McPherson pickets

    b) played a homeless ex sea org and showed up on Bob Minton's doorstep in New Hampshire

    c) played a homeless guy with a cell fone trying to invite himself to stay with me at my home in virginia

    d) before the LMT was started, I got a call from Bob Minton, who said that he had troubles in Geneva, with the Swiss authorities regarding his accounts. I referred him to a freind of mine who used to be a Fed. What was found out was that David Lebow had gone to Geneva and using a shore story, and NOT disclosing who he was working for, hired the head of the ex-head of the Geneva Bar Association, who then passed on scientology's lies top the Swiss financial police. When the ex-head of the Geneva bar found out who his client David Lebow was working for he ended the association. Meanwhile my friend made it all go away ( having had to go there to deal with it ).

    e) In Stay's harassment of bob minton timeline there is a mention of Bob's partner's offices in Geneva being burglarized - this is NOT what happenned. Bob told me that during settlement discussions with Mike RInder that Mike Rinder had stated, when asked about Bob's partner 'burglary), that Scientology had paid 50,000 to the concierge (who used his pass key) for a xerox copy of every piece of paper in the man's private office at that hotel in Geneva. This would have been Lebow, cause he was there.

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