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    Quote Originally Posted by Feral View Post
    Big surprise.
    Alonzo divised an obvious trap that wasn't sprung, now he goes all Drama Queen about it Bawww bawww
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    Cool Hushmail was founded by Cliff Baltzley in 1999 after leaving Ultimate Privacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Good twin View Post
    Geeze. Don't any of you get it? Have you all been blinded by the Shackologist? Alanzo is (as per usual) making a very important point with his question here.

    Marty has been "out" of the cult for whatever period of time. Marty claims to be against the abusive tactics of DM/OSA. Marty has information about the secret tactics of DM/OSA. Marty's not talking. How "out" is he really if he his still protecting those secret tactics? Or is he protecting those secrets, for his own reasons? He's either a double dumbass scumbag or promoting a hidden agenda.

    Thank you Alanzo, for pointing out the obvious.

    Shame on the rest of you for giving M&M yet another pass.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hushmail

    Hushmail is a web-based email service offering PGP-encrypted e-mail, file storage, vanity domain service, and instant messaging (Hush Messenger). Hushmail uses OpenPGP standards and the source is available for download. Additional security features include hidden IP addresses in e-mail headers. The free e-mail account has a limit of 2MB, and no IMAP or POP3.

    If a free account is not logged into for three weeks it is deactivated and the only option given to reactivate it is to upgrade to a paid account. Paid accounts have several hundred MB of storage as well as IMAP and POP3 access.

    If public encryption keys are available to both recipient and sender (either both are Hushmail users or have uploaded PGP keys to the Hush keyserver), Hushmail can convey authenticated, encrypted messages in both directions. For recipients for whom no public key is available, Hushmail will allow a message to be encrypted by a password (with a password hint) and stored for pickup by the recipient, or the message can be sent in cleartext.

    Hushmail was founded by Cliff Baltzley in 1999 after leaving Ultimate Privacy, and is based in Vancouver. The servers are in Vancouver, and there are also offices in Dublin, Ireland; Delaware, United States; and Anguilla.
    Me I don't use Hushmail because I am too Lazy to change from one email thing to another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonKat View Post
    Alonzo divised an obvious trap that wasn't sprung, now he goes all Drama Queen about it Bawww bawww
    Such an intelligent and relevant response to the ideas expressed and the points made in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanzo View Post
    Such an intelligent and relevant response to the ideas expressed and the points made in this thread.

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    You stated the comment as a Gattlinggun.

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    A long time ago I saw Mike Rinder in a documetary in (OSA) action. I decided not to like him. He was very evil. He destroyed lots of lives in a very evil psychological way. He has to excuse and he has to give every single information to help the victims and to help that it doesn't happen again. IMO he has to do it without personal profit.

    The same is with Mark Rathbun. Why he didn't talk about the things OSA makes, how they make it and much more.

    I am ready to forgive, but I can't forgive without that they speak about everything and apologize. They are carrying lots of loads on their shoulders!

    Maybe they need time to heal, but they can prevent lots of pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonKat View Post
    You stated the comment as a rattlinggun.
    So you are saying that I forgot to curtsy?

    If Mike Rinder truly felt this was one of his responsibilities to his "fellows", would he have replied in such a demeaning way?

    Would Marty have deleted my post?

    Come on, dude.

    Wake the fuck up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sauerlaenderin View Post
    A long time ago I saw Mike Rinder in a documetary in (OSA) action. I decided not to like him. He was very evil. He destroyed lots of lives in a very evil psychological way. He has to excuse and he has to give every single information to help the victims and to help that it doesn't happen again. IMO he has to do it without personal profit.

    The same is with Mark Rathbun. Why he didn't talk about the things OSA makes, how they make it and much more.

    I am ready to forgive, but I can't forgive without that they speak about everything and apologize. They are carrying lots of loads on their shoulders!

    Maybe they need time to heal, but they can prevent lots of pain.
    Exactamundo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sauerlaenderin View Post
    A long time ago I saw Mike Rinder in a documetary in (OSA) action. I decided not to like him. He was very evil. He destroyed lots of lives in a very evil psychological way. He has to excuse and he has to give every single information to help the victims and to help that it doesn't happen again. IMO he has to do it without personal profit.

    The same is with Mark Rathbun. Why he didn't talk about the things OSA makes, how they make it and much more.

    I am ready to forgive, but I can't forgive without that they speak about everything and apologize. They are carrying lots of loads on their shoulders!

    Maybe they need time to heal, but they can prevent lots of pain.
    I hope you get to meet him in person someday I really do. It is not an unlikely thing to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exsomessenger View Post
    How long did it take most people who were in the Sea ORg or Public to fully come out of the cloud ?

    I know that it has taken me over 10 years to fully start to confront everthing that I was a part of. I am in no way giving Mike or MArty a pass. It just seems that there is quite a bit of people saying that they have to tell ALL right now. When they do not say what others want when they want it. Mike and Marty seemed to be attacked.

    Wen I left the Sea Org I was confused and afraid. We all "wake up" in our own way. I know that they are not like every other person that comes out of the Sea ORg but they are people and will need to Heal in their own way and time.

    Who else gets attacked for comming out of the church? I do not agree with everthing they are doing and I'm sure that they have much to tell. I'm willing to let them get to it on their own time.

    How is making fun and calling names going to help people to get through over two decades of being in a CULT. I believe everyone heals in their own way.

    Mike and Marty don’t want help getting over being in a Cult. Mike and Marty, regardless of how they demure, are “leaders” for the Indies and they know it.

    They Indies are Scns, not Exes, and they are conditioned to admire, “flow power to” and look the other way whilst their leaders “handle” the "Enemies" of “The Group”. Yes, everyone has their own time and way to “wake up” and “dismantle” re: El Ron and Scn. But, these guys are still Scns.

    I walked away over 20 years ago because, in part, I thought Da Monster and the CMO were nuts and dangerous and that things were fixin' to go from bad to worse.

    Why the Indies want leaders that would actively support the insanity for 3 decades is simple…they’re Scns. I knew both of them, personally. Marty and Mike get no pass from me as long as they're pullin’ the “Protect the Tech and El Ron” at all costs shit. And, the Indies get no pass from me as long as they’re giving standing ovations and “Hip Hip, Hooray’s” to everything Mike Grinner and Spinnin’ Marty serves up.

    Every post Alonzo gets through moderation on Marty’s blog is a seed planted and I admire his patience and tenacity; or maybe it’s his pig headed rabidity. I chose to spend my time documenting my “Take” on my years with El Ron and in the SO and dialogue with others here on ESMB. I’m glad you’re here exso with your unique perspective...it helps us all. Different strokes for different folks.

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    Default On OSA cracking and such stuff

    1. I believe Marty was pretty computer illiterate when he was in. Thus he would have little to offer.
    2. I have worked with OSA on Internet covert ops.
    3. They are like Bambi on the ice. They have no clue.

    BTW; The term is "cracking", not "hacking"
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