Rex Fowler 1st degree murder trial

[BunnySkull]

I agree with you on this. Does anyone know if a civil suit has been filed by the victims family?

Not to my knowledge and its pretty SOP to allow a criminal trial proceed before filing any type of civil procedure. I have no doubt if Folwer or his estate has one red cent left, or have any insurance, a civil suit will be in the works to be filed immediately after the conclusion of the criminal matter. (The only time this may not apply is if a statue of limitation gets in the way, so they may be forced to file before a criminal matter is neatly wrapped up. But since this is a murder case, no fear of that happening.)

A lot of times civil suits can dilute the criminal procedures, gives the defense a weapon. Such as the defense can infer the victims are testifying because "they hope to make money" or "get money" due to the civil case so its better not to muddy the waters until a conviction is secured. It keeps the motives of the victims family above reproach. (don't get me wrong I see nothing wrong with going after someone for murdering your husband in a civil matter, but it just gives the desperate defense something to use for lack of any real defense.)

On the other hand if a conviction is not secured, or he gets off scot free, a civil suit is one remedy that can ensure some price is paid for the crime. (Good example of this is OJ Simpson losing a huge civil suit to the Brown family after after the murder of Nicole and Ron after he was found not guilty in the criminal matter.)

As for the whole Scientology cult pressure forcing Fowler to do it - don't hold your breath on that one. Folwer will have to cooperate with his own defense and if he still believes or at least feels he must protect his own family from the wrath of the cult he can ensure nothing much about Scientology is brought forth at trial simply by lack of cooperation in that defense strategy. Now if he's had a change of heart or is angry at the cult, well, then there is hope for an interesting trial for sure.

(Personally my bets are on cult pressure forcing him to cop a plea, whether to his best interest or not, just to keep the flap from being broadcast in the media anymore. I would also bet his family works with the cult against his best interest and put pressure on him to go along with whatever the cult once. Still hold a tiny hope Folwer will see the light and decide "fuck this evil cult" and plan his whole defense against their greedy high pressure insanity.)

[Mick Wenlock]

But a major thing to keep in mind is that Fowler's victim comes from a family full of powerful, well connected lawyers. (His parents and siblings) This fact alone means they may really come after him much harder than usual seeing as though people in the legal community are connected with his victims' families and acquaintances.

That is very true. I do not know how much sway the Ciancio family may have over the Adams County administration.

I have a good inkling of how close and connected the legal communities are, whether in cities or small towns, and believe me when you fuck with one of their own there will be hell to pay. I don't think for a second that his victims family won't use all of their inside power and influence to make him pay and suffer. He killed their son, brother in cold blood (after cheating him his due for years of work in a Scieno company, which must of been hell for a non-scio to work in.) and they may not say much to the media, but they are quietly and assuredly making sure this guy won't see the light of day for a very long time

I am sure that they will be looking for blood (sharks are like that...) and I am sure they are ready to rip the heart out of Fowlers own personal finances.

But I am basing what i said on a) knowing quite a few people in the Adams County sheriff's department - (I have several neighbors who are in it) and I asked them about it and all said that Murder 2 was the most likely outcome and b) the pressure on the budget for the county (I live in this county). A capital murder trial would cost the county a lot of money and also expose the DA's to the chance that they might make a serious error of some kind and screw it all up.

But you could well have the right picture Bunny - I do not know anything at all about the victim's family or their connections and that could well trump the mundane points about budget,

[Auditor's Toad]

He will do the bidding of the cult.

[Lynn Fountain Campbell]

He will do the bidding of the cult.

I thought he was being held in some kind of protective custody. Can the cult get to him to make their bidding known to him?

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Lynn

[Feral]

Not to mention 27 Intensives of sec checking at Flag before he was allowed "back" onto Solo Nuts, er...Nots.

That's 337.5 hours of enforced moral codes and realignment of values in front of a sec checker and meter folks.

With probably another 20 to 30 ("FREE") hours with an SO MAA interpreting, his overts (via a knowledge report) against those codes as well as re-enforcing them with a stick and a carrot.

Mind bending stuff.

[Dilettante]

That's 337.5 hours of enforced moral codes and realignment of values in front of a sec checker and meter folks.

With probably another 20 to 30 ("FREE") hours with an SO MAA interpreting, his overts (via a knowledge report) against those codes as well as re-enforcing them with a stick and a carrot.

Mind bending stuff.

What's bending my mind is trying to figure out if this is a great defense or a means for the prosecution to prove guilt. I sure don't mean to make jokes about this but it just tragic all the way around.

[afaceinthecrowd]

The whole thing is incredibly sad to me, I often think about the victims family as well as the incredibly stupid Rex and his family, they must be utterly bewildered at how this could happen.

As conflicted as this sounds I'd love to see a media frenzy on this. If it serves to get others out of the trap that the CofS lays it would be a great service and then some good will have come out of this.

I'm aware that my viewpoint on this is at odds with others but as a person who was under the same mind control as Rex for 15 years and who even drilled with him in the past I can't help but think; "There but for the grace of God I go".

Scientology ruins lives.

In the hands of David Miscavige it just works so much better.

Feral,

I posted my comment re: Fowler's Children before I read this from you...thank you for bringing "context". I share your confliction.

There is no doubt in my mind that Rex is in a dark and torturous place right now.

It is of no solace to him…or to me…that his agony and forlorn may well serve to save a host of others a gruesome fate.

”Show me a prison, show me a jail
Show me a pris'ner whose face has grown pale

And I'll show you a young man
With many reasons why
There but for fortune, go you or I”

“There But for Fortune” Phil Ochs

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[FoTi]

I thought he was being held in some kind of protective custody. Can the cult get to him to make their bidding known to him?

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Lynn

Could they not get to him by sending in one of their attorneys under the guise of "defending him"?

[Arthur Dent]

Could they not get to him by sending in one of their attorneys under the guise of "defending him"?

Certainly but also through his wife/family.

Did he really have that many intensives of sec. checking? 20-something?
I think that alone would drive anyone to hurt someone.

[Auditor's Toad]

I thought he was being held in some kind of protective custody. Can the cult get to him to make their bidding known to him?

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Lynn

He most likely has some access to lawyers and unless the lawyers are also being held in custody then the cult operatives have everyday access to the lawyers who have access to Rex.