You're creating something called "rehash"Originally Posted by uniquemand
You're creating something called "rehash"
I have discovered that in my heart, I know things my mind cannot comprehend.Except for the simple observation, U, that I'm not the one who starts these things. Nor am I especially interested in lengthy, heated arguments over the matter. My primary interest in these threads, such as it is, lies in clearing up the many popular misconceptions about philosophy, spirituality, the nature of mind, and subjective experience generally.
I learned long ago not to confuse considerations of "measurable phenomena" as being "objective reality". ALL knowledge is "of the mind", and as such it is innately subjective.
Additionally, I might add, you seem always to be quite eager to "enter the fray".
Mark A. Baker
I'd say your "heart" is created by your mind. Unless you are talking about the organ that sends blood around your body. Didn't seem like it.
self is never sufficient
http://www.xenu.net/archive/enemy_names/enemy_list.html
Clear Objectives
Emotional Competency
Logical Fallacies
Which reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from Pascal.
Le cœur a ses raisons, que la raison ne connaît point. On le sent en mille choses. C'est le cœur qui sent Dieu, et non la raison. Voilà ce que c'est que la foi parfaite, Dieu sensible au cœur.
The heart has its reasons, which reason does not know. We feel it in a thousand things. I say that the heart naturally loves the Universal Being, and also itself naturally, according as it gives itself to them; and it hardens itself against one or the other at its will. You have rejected the one, and kept the other. Is it by reason that you love yourself?
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Blaise_Pascal
Mark A. Baker
And too often we ignore it.
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" In this universe there is an immeasurable, indescribable force which shamans call intent, and absolutely everything that exists in the entire cosmos is attached to intent by a connecting link"___Carlos Castaneda
Yes! The flawed mind often gets in the wayAnd too often we ignore it.
As does the flawed body.
Mark A. Baker
hmmm. I translate that as:
The heart has its reasons, that the reason does not know. We feel in a thousand things. It is the heart which feels God, and not the reason. Here is what it is that the faith perfect, God sensitive to heart.
~p
Originally Posted by Alan
Possibly this was my most embarrassing incident to do with LRH.
It occured on the Original Class VIII course, in Oct 1968.
We were docked in Corfu, a small Greek Island halfway between Greece and Italy.
Each night at 8.00 p.m. LRH gave a lecture.
We were in the main dining room which doubled as the lecture room. Behind LRH were the picture windows facing out to the docks across the way.
Thus there were an approx 300 of the upper level SO Staff and Class VIII students crammed into this room - facing Hubbard and Mary-Sue who sat alongside LRH - so except for LRH and MSH we all viewed the activities outside the windows.
Each night at around 8.30 pm there was a ferry from Corfu to Brindisi that would leave. It was very punctual. There was a lot of clanging and banging and the reving of engines and the ferry would come chugging past us - the sounds are probably still on the tapes.
Of course this pissed LRH off - he would turn and glare at the offending ferry boat.
Any way one night at the exact time there was the usual clanging and banging and the reving of engines the chugging past us noise.
LRH does not turn his head but stares straight us and proceeds to give us how he is exterior with full perceptics - and describes the ferry, etc. He was really puffed up with his ability to demonstrate his exterior with full perceptics.
The only problem was that night a tug boat towing a garbage scow was what went past the windows.
We all witnessed it - the emperor was naked!!!
There was deathly silence in the room - the room went very solid. No one looked at another.
Later on only Fred Fairchild, Nev Chamberlin and I dare speak about it. But every staff member and future Class VIII were given a major withhold that night.
Alan
Thank-you for digging this up Veda ... it really does say it all.
Hubbard lovers ... snap out of it.
From the moment someone becomes a scientologist they start to emotionally detach from those they once loved and treasured, they replace them with other scientologists, cultic lectures, formulas, scales, charts and 'processing'. Eventually all of that conditioning has to be undone if the shattered relationships are to have any chance of healing.
Scientology is a divisive cult that cannot deliver what it promises because what it promises doesn't exist.
So, If YOU lost your mind, You would be dead.
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