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    Originally Posted by Auditor's Toad
    '"You have been extremely clear - and consise.


    And, this is a world class summation :

    El Ron’s desperate solutions to a horrid continuing PTP “How do I continue to keep extorting all the money and admiration I want for something I stole, plagiarized, made up and pretend to have discovered all by myself and continue to steal, lie about, plagiarize, make up and pretend to discover all by myself—and can't actually personally do—without being found out and "ruined" or going to jail?”

    In fact that would make a super fine siggy !

    Hmmm, dare I ask .... "


    Face, unfortunately, the siggy has a 500 character limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkwdblds View Post
    ----snipped----
    However, I am addressing a SPECIFIC issue and that issue concerns solely what LRH's goals were when he realized that his body death was imminent and he was soon to die.

    DID LRH CHANGE HIS MODUS OPERANDI AFTER HE REALIZED THAT HE WOULD SOON BE GONE FROM THE SCENE OR DID HE KEEP UP HIS CONTROL OVER PEOPLE AND HIS POWER AND MONEY GRAB TENDENCIES RIGHT UP THE VERY LAST DAY OF HIS LIFE?

    There are some possibilities to consider regarding the Commodore's last will and testament...

    1) DYING DECLARATION: In courts of law, normally inadmissible heresay evidence of a person's "statement" is barred. One notable exception is the "Dying Declaration" which is permitted because of the weight given to an individual's final dying words. In the case of LRH, since it is a well established fact that he was a chronic liar, the value of what he said can hardly be relied upon anything other than spin, shore stories or acceptable truths to ensure his name was burned into history or whatever it was that he was trying to do.

    1) DYING POSTULATES: What Hubbard wanted in the closing moments of Act III is inconsequential. Having written more than 75,000,000 words, he had plenty of opportunity to set the record straight, but failed to do so his entire life. Anything he intended at the very end cannot be discerned through the kaleidoscopic onion layers that he operated thru.

    3. DYING PLEA FOR ABSOLUTION: Even in the doubtful scenario that Hubbard elected to as forgiveness and do penance ("take full responsibility" in Scn parlance) for his lifetime of sins, there is no confession ("OW writeup") to corroborate that idea. And, while it is fanciful to imagine such a thing might have happened, it has no bearing on his character or the rehabilitation, thereof, because criminals often have a last-second change of heart when capital punishment (i.e. a death sentence) is imminent. By way of example, mafia murderers often call for their priest to give them the final sacrament of forgiveness so they can skate on the murder one charges with God and safely parole out to Heaven.

    4. DYING DECLARATIONS PART II: If Hubbard had any semblance of conscience in the final days in his bunker, he would have UN-DECLARED the mission holders and all his other innocent victims, stretching back to Paulette Cooper and beyond. He died with all those SP declarations and fair game programs in full effect, without remorse.

    In any fantasy construct, Hubbard still did what dastardly deeds he did his entire career as a planetary savior and then insouciantly applied his policy of "Never regret yesterday...". You gotta admit, it's expedient and avoids all the DevT of getting sec checked and doing ethics conditions to make up the damage--like he forced upon others in order to "help" them salvage their "eternity".

    Telling, ain't it?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auditor's Toad View Post
    Originally Posted by Auditor's Toad
    '"You have been extremely clear - and consise.


    And, this is a world class summation :

    El Ron’s desperate solutions to a horrid continuing PTP “How do I continue to keep extorting all the money and admiration I want for something I stole, plagiarized, made up and pretend to have discovered all by myself and continue to steal, lie about, plagiarize, make up and pretend to discover all by myself—and can't actually personally do—without being found out and "ruined" or going to jail?”

    In fact that would make a super fine siggy !

    Hmmm, dare I ask .... "


    Face, unfortunately, the siggy has a 500 character limit.
    Okay, Toad. If you wish, I'll work with you to edit it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afaceinthecrowd View Post
    Okay, Toad. If you wish, I'll work with you to edit it down.

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    Yes, but as it is it is such a thing of beauty. It covers so much and does so correctly. For anybody that knows much of any history of it that consisely lays out what the old boy was up to and the problems ot presented him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaHoax! View Post
    There are some possibilities to consider regarding the Commodore's last will and testament...

    1) DYING DECLARATION: In courts of law, normally inadmissible heresay evidence of a person's "statement" is barred. One notable exception is the "Dying Declaration" which is permitted because of the weight given to an individual's final dying words. In the case of LRH, since it is a well established fact that he was a chronic liar, the value of what he said can hardly be relied upon anything other than spin, shore stories or acceptable truths to ensure his name was burned into history or whatever it was that he was trying to do.

    1) DYING POSTULATES: What Hubbard wanted in the closing moments of Act III is inconsequential. Having written more than 75,000,000 words, he had plenty of opportunity to set the record straight, but failed to do so his entire life. Anything he intended at the very end cannot be discerned through the kaleidoscopic onion layers that he operated thru.

    3. DYING PLEA FOR ABSOLUTION: Even in the doubtful scenario that Hubbard elected to as forgiveness and do penance ("take full responsibility" in Scn parlance) for his lifetime of sins, there is no confession ("OW writeup") to corroborate that idea. And, while it is fanciful to imagine such a thing might have happened, it has no bearing on his character or the rehabilitation, thereof, because criminals often have a last-second change of heart when capital punishment (i.e. a death sentence) is imminent. By way of example, mafia murderers often call for their priest to give them the final sacrament of forgiveness so they can skate on the murder one charges with God and safely parole out to Heaven.

    4. DYING DECLARATIONS PART II: If Hubbard had any semblance of conscience in the final days in his bunker, he would have UN-DECLARED the mission holders and all his other innocent victims, stretching back to Paulette Cooper and beyond. He died with all those SP declarations and fair game programs in full effect, without remorse.

    In any fantasy construct, Hubbard still did what dastardly deeds he did his entire career as a planetary savior and then insouciantly applied his policy of "Never regret yesterday...". You gotta admit, it's expedient and avoids all the DevT of getting sec checked and doing ethics conditions to make up the damage--like he forced upon others in order to "help" them salvage their "eternity".

    Telling, ain't it?!
    Great Stuff, HH!

    Very telling indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auditor's Toad View Post
    Yes, but as it is it is such a thing of beauty. It covers so much and does so correctly. For anybody that knows much of any history of it that consisely lays out what the old boy was up to and the problems ot presented him.
    Best I can do is to get it down by 40 characters (including spaces), does that help you? After that it's messin' with it too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auditor's Toad View Post
    Originally Posted by Auditor's Toad
    '"You have been extremely clear - and consise.


    And, this is a world class summation :

    El Ron’s desperate solutions to a horrid continuing PTP “How do I continue to keep extorting all the money and admiration I want for something I stole, plagiarized, made up and pretend to have discovered all by myself and continue to steal, lie about, plagiarize, make up and pretend to discover all by myself—and can't actually personally do—without being found out and "ruined" or going to jail?”

    In fact that would make a super fine siggy !

    Hmmm, dare I ask .... "


    Face, unfortunately, the siggy has a 500 character limit.
    Quote Originally Posted by afaceinthecrowd View Post
    Best I can do is to get it down by 40 characters (including spaces), does that help you? After that it's messin' with it too much.

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    Why not just put a link to the post in you sig line, AT? Call it "You've gotta read this!" or something to tempt the click.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terril park View Post
    This is I believe the most coherent appraisal of the decline of
    a dream many shared. And some still do.

    I believe unique.

    My request is that you give your name and others. Of course
    not if there are any negative consequences possible.

    his exploits are posted on you tube with his real name, Don Diego de la Vega


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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda Termint View Post
    Why not just put a link to the post in you sig line, AT? Call it "You've gotta read this!" or something to tempt the click.
    I don't know how to do that.

    How would I link post # 258 in this thread.

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