Source Magazine Issue 193 circa August 2007 includes new DM courses

[Dulloldfart]

I posted some comments by Pierre on a separate thread.

Why? They belong on this thread. Is Pierre so important that his every comment commands a new thread?

Paul (who also started a new thread on Power. )

[nexus100]

Why? They belong on this thread. Is Pierre so important that his every comment commands a new thread?

Paul (who also started a new thread on Power. )

Well, dammit, I'M going to start a thread on Power then. Which should be interesting because I don't know a damn thing about it.

[Pascal]

Well, dammit, I'M going to start a thread on Power then. Which should be interesting because I don't know a damn thing about it.

To hell with you all! I'm gonna start my own forum on Power! Aaarh!



:D

[Terril park]

Why? They belong on this thread. Is Pierre so important that his every comment commands a new thread?

Paul (who also started a new thread on Power. )

The forum is so busy I asumed I couldn't find the right thread again.
Probably a bad assumtion.

What's your excuser?

[Dulloldfart]

The forum is so busy I asumed I couldn't find the right thread again.
Probably a bad assumtion.

What's your excuser?

Fair enough. (I find threads again using the Search function. Just search for "power" and it will come up easily enough.)

I thought mine would end up being a long thread, with posts on the four flows of Pr Pr 5 and Pr Pr 6, as well as comments about 1, 2 and 3. Now, I see that these will not be necessary.

Paul

[Lulu Belle]

I had once said to Bea on this board that I had heard that you had to do the Alternate Route to attest to Clear now. I couldn't remember where I read it.

I found it. It is from Miss X on XSO. Since she gave me an OK to repost any of her posts, here it is.

Bold emphasis mine.


...as unbelievable as it may seem, that's an AVERAGE of time on the RPF because (as Bruce Hines also mentioned), it has been made impossible to get through because of the Golden Age of Tech Degrades going on within the church.

You don't start coauditing until after you do all of your training and pass several instant read and F/N videos which no one on the approval line can agree on -- so this is your first year (if not longer). You then have an arbitrary program because DM discovered that no one is really clear if they didn't do R6EW and the full clearing course route, so your clear status has to be sorted out for twinning and programming purposes, the truth rundown can't properly EP because the psycho stuff you ACTUALLY SAW doesn't just "blow".

The FPRD (which was revised and reissued by DM in LRH's name) takes forever and then you have a fabricated 15 question "final assessment" asking for ev purps on DM, RTC, etc.that has to be taken to a clean assessment which I have no words for except SQUIRREL as you mix FPRD with assessment tech and it doesn' t matter how many times you take a question to F/N, it gets asked again in an assessment and if the needle is not clean throughout the whole assessment, you're re-doing it again.

I've documented people getting this assessment 800 times and spending 2-4 years on it -- even people who went to the RPF as an FSO Page or an FLB Cleaner who never met DM. I proposed a handling when I was on the FLB RPF in 2004 and I understand from people who were there at the time, DM rejected it out of hand, saying it stays the way it is and he told the 2 people in Snr C/S Int Office who forwarded my proposal that they were declared.

The RPF today has nothing to do with rehabilitation. And in my view, the whole church has turned into one big squirrel group under DM which is rapidly sinking.

[Dulloldfart]

(Source = Miss X) You then have an arbitrary program because DM discovered that no one is really clear if they didn't do R6EW and the full clearing course route...

Anyone know how DM got around that 1978 LRH "Dianetic Clear" HCOB?

I'm not discussing the rights or wrongs of the two approaches. I am wondering how he has managed to nullify the LRH HCOB, if in fact that is what now occurs.

Paul

[Fancy]

Bea this is not about this thread but you may know of me. Did you know Nathaniel and Dan?

IF you did did you know me in about 1999-2000. I was there and one time I raised hell because they were going to change my auditor.

I use to sit in the HGC watching The Griffith observatory.

I am not a small girl.

Barb

When I was still in, up to 2004, in ASHO, it was delivered as a course. The checksheet is an old BTB and I think most of the issues are too. They are not converted to LRH only. The checksheet, as of that time, was still "old". But they needed people trained on it. So they did that course.

I think, if I remember right, you can do it as part of the Class VI auditor Internship.

As soon as DM finds out people are doing that checksheet, it will be another flap, round of RPF assignments and SP declares for the Senior C/S Int office, for not getting a proper checksheet out. Sad, but I am sure that type of thing would happen.

Then they would pull the checksheet and course. And no training would get done. And unless DM pushes it to the end, the new course will not be made and released.

And until many people are stopped on the Bridge because of no Power auditors (because they all got declared or died of old age), then the checksheet would come out, with DM "taking out all stops and arbitraries".

What a puss.

[Bea Kiddo]

Bea this is not about this thread but you may know of me. Did you know Nathaniel and Dan?

IF you did did you know me in about 1999-2000. I was there and one time I raised hell because they were going to change my auditor.

I use to sit in the HGC watching The Griffith observatory.

I am not a small girl.

Barb

Maybe. PM me. I know Nathaniel and Dan. They are in my age group. I know them decently well.

[Div6]

Anyone know how DM got around that 1978 LRH "Dianetic Clear" HCOB?

I'm not discussing the rights or wrongs of the two approaches. I am wondering how he has managed to nullify the LRH HCOB, if in fact that is what now occurs.

Paul

Well, from reports arriving daily they TE you for a CCRD, and then drain your bank accounts until you "give" and un attest yourself. If you don't unattest yourself you are given an ethics program to get through ...