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    Default Tom Cruise wants to get ethics in on the planet – Let’s take him up on that.

    L. Ron Hubbard in his taped lecture-“Scientology and Effective Knowledge” said something along the following lines:

    “If it’s true for you, it’s true, if it isn’t true for you, then it isn’t true… “

    And about not true:

    “… be it a good observation, then it’s not true; it doesn’t matter if I said it or not.”

    Based on Hubbard’s own statement about truth and observation, let’s have
    Tom OBSERVE and then get Scientology’s ethics in.

    Tom himself.

    Tom has announced that he ruthlessly gets in ethics on himself, so we won’t address his multiple failed marriages, his lack of manners when jumping on Oprah Winfrey’s couch, his absurd reaction to Peter Overton’s question about his parenting role with his children and Nicole Kidman and certainly we needn’t touch on the rumoured use of slave RPF labour.

    However he does also state that he gets ethics in on others.

    He says “I won’t hesitate to put ethics in on someone else because I put it ruthlessly in on myself.”

    So Tom, here are just two areas where Scientology needs an ethics adjustment – Go for it.

    Psychiatrists, Health Workers and Critics.

    • Tom should meet with Psychiatrists
    -Question them and observe if they are the evil SP’s that Hubbard insists they are.
    -If not, then publicly announce that Hubbard was wrong; remember it doesn’t matter if he said it or not.

    • Tom should meet with Health Workers.
    -Explain to them how he, as a Scientologist, is the only one who can help at an accident.
    -Question them to see if they could possibly help as well.
    -If they are able to help, publicly apologise for demeaning their efforts.

    • Tom should meet with Critics.
    -Question them and observe them to see if they are the haters and SP’s that Scientology insists they are.
    -Ask them what happened to them and what they think is wrong with Scientology.
    -If they are not the ogres that Scientology portrays, then publicly announce that the critics have valid complaints and should be heard.

    Scientology Staff.

    • Tom should observe the exchange situation of the organization.
    -Note how many hours the average staff member gives to his/her org.
    -Compare how much auditing the org is providing the staff member.
    -Demand that Scientology gets its exchange in with its staff members.
    -Ensure that all staff are paid appropriately; as much as David Miscavige if possible.

    • Tom should read aloud the “Way to Happiness” booklet.
    -Observe the conditions demanded of Scientology staff; especially Sea Org staff.
    -Note every outpoint and publicly demand that all staff and S.O. conditions follow that booklet precisely.

    • Tom should read aloud the Scientology creed.
    -Observe how Scientology flaunts the creed.
    -Note every outpoint and publicly demand that every person on the planet be treated per the creed.
    -Publicly demand that the policy on “Fair Game” be cancelled forever and all reference to R2-45 be removed.

    • Tom should visit the RPF’s and see how his fellow “Loyal Officers” are being treated.
    -If he is as shocked as he should be, come out publicly and demand that the RPF’s be dismantled and that all punishment meted out by Scientology to anyone be scrapped forever.

    • Tom should explain how the disconnection policy is good for anyone other than Scientology.
    -If it cannot be justified, come out publicly and demand that the policy be cancelled.

    Go on Tom, I dare you to try to get ethics in on the organization.

    LTG
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    Good post! Excellent idea!
    Tom does seem to be rather confused when it comes to the subject of Ethics, this would undoubtedly help him sort things out.
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    I may be belaboring the same point frequently, but imagine what it takes to put people in the frame of mind they actually believe to deserve this type of treatment!
    He can't because he would have to admit to himself that he has been fooled all these years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyWolf View Post
    He can't because he would have to admit to himself that he has been fooled all these years.
    Imo, that's a huge step. When you are willing to realize that you are not in control of Matter, Energy, Space and Time, but instead, are a retard that bought into the con, then that's a huge step in you recovery.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTimeGone View Post
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    Based on Hubbard’s own statement about truth and observation, let’s have Tom OBSERVE and then get Scientology’s ethics in.

    Tom himself.

    Tom has announced that he ruthlessly gets in ethics on himself...

    However he does also state that he gets ethics in on others.

    He says “I won’t hesitate to put ethics in on someone else because I put it ruthlessly in on myself.”

    your entire post---simply perfect!

    Okay, Tom....then why DO you hesitate to put ethics in?



    Originally Posted by Tom Cruise
    Jesus, that's bad, isn't it?! You didn't believe my character when I said: 'I won't hesitate to put ethics in ruthlessly?" I thought I really nailed that dialogue line from the script! Okay, let me really get ethics in on that line. I'm ready, let's do another take!
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    Originally Posted by Tom Cruise
    Jesus, that's bad, isn't it?! You didn't believe my character when I said: 'I won't hesitate to put ethics in ruthlessly?" I thought I really nailed that dialogue line from the script! Okay, let me really get ethics in on that line. I'm ready, let's do another take!
    Priceless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda Termint View Post
    Good post! Excellent idea!
    Tom does seem to be rather confused when it comes to the subject of Ethics, this would undoubtedly help him sort things out.
    All Scientologists have had their concept of ethics corrupted.

    Hubbard implied that being ethical was light years ahead of mere morality. He also stated the purpose of ethics (organisationally) was to remove counter intention and once that was done to remove other intentions.

    You have to take three steps back and ask "counter intenions" and "other intentions" to what?

    I've seen IAS reges totally trowel a man for having "other intentions" to the org that was trying to relieve him of every cent he had.

    That's "ethical".

    Ethics are another corrupted truth that Hubbard used to snare us into serving his game, the only game where everyone wins!

    When you think about it Rex was probably being ethical and putting in ethics too.
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    Yes, I could have just as readily said "scientologists do seem to be rather confused when it comes to the subject of Ethics, this would undoubtedly help (them) sort things out."
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTimeGone View Post
    L. Ron Hubbard in his taped lecture-“Scientology and Effective Knowledge” said something along the following lines:

    “If it’s true for you, it’s true, if it isn’t true for you, then it isn’t true… “

    And about not true:

    “… be it a good observation, then it’s not true; it doesn’t matter if I said it or not.”

    Based on Hubbard’s own statement about truth and observation, let’s have
    Tom OBSERVE and then get Scientology’s ethics in.

    Tom himself.

    Tom has announced that he ruthlessly gets in ethics on himself, so we won’t address his multiple failed marriages, his lack of manners when jumping on Oprah Winfrey’s couch, his absurd reaction to Peter Overton’s question about his parenting role with his children and Nicole Kidman and certainly we needn’t touch on the rumoured use of slave RPF labour.

    However he does also state that he gets ethics in on others.

    He says “I won’t hesitate to put ethics in on someone else because I put it ruthlessly in on myself.”

    So Tom, here are just two areas where Scientology needs an ethics adjustment – Go for it.

    Psychiatrists, Health Workers and Critics.

    • Tom should meet with Psychiatrists
    -Question them and observe if they are the evil SP’s that Hubbard insists they are.
    -If not, then publicly announce that Hubbard was wrong; remember it doesn’t matter if he said it or not.

    • Tom should meet with Health Workers.
    -Explain to them how he, as a Scientologist, is the only one who can help at an accident.
    -Question them to see if they could possibly help as well.
    -If they are able to help, publicly apologise for demeaning their efforts.

    • Tom should meet with Critics.
    -Question them and observe them to see if they are the haters and SP’s that Scientology insists they are.
    -Ask them what happened to them and what they think is wrong with Scientology.
    -If they are not the ogres that Scientology portrays, then publicly announce that the critics have valid complaints and should be heard.

    Scientology Staff.

    • Tom should observe the exchange situation of the organization.
    -Note how many hours the average staff member gives to his/her org.
    -Compare how much auditing the org is providing the staff member.
    -Demand that Scientology gets its exchange in with its staff members.
    -Ensure that all staff are paid appropriately; as much as David Miscavige if possible.

    • Tom should read aloud the “Way to Happiness” booklet.
    -Observe the conditions demanded of Scientology staff; especially Sea Org staff.
    -Note every outpoint and publicly demand that all staff and S.O. conditions follow that booklet precisely.

    • Tom should read aloud the Scientology creed.
    -Observe how Scientology flaunts the creed.
    -Note every outpoint and publicly demand that every person on the planet be treated per the creed.
    -Publicly demand that the policy on “Fair Game” be cancelled forever and all reference to R2-45 be removed.

    • Tom should visit the RPF’s and see how his fellow “Loyal Officers” are being treated.
    -If he is as shocked as he should be, come out publicly and demand that the RPF’s be dismantled and that all punishment metered out by Scientology to anyone be scrapped forever.

    • Tom should explain how the disconnection policy is good for anyone other than Scientology.
    -If it cannot be justified, come out publicly and demand that the policy be cancelled.

    Go on Tom, I dare you to try to get ethics in on the organization.

    LTG
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTimeGone View Post
    L. Ron Hubbard in his taped lecture-“Scientology and Effective Knowledge” said something along the following lines:

    “If it’s true for you, it’s true, if it isn’t true for you, then it isn’t true… “

    And about not true:

    “… be it a good observation, then it’s not true; it doesn’t matter if I said it or not.”

    Based on Hubbard’s own statement about truth and observation, let’s have
    Tom OBSERVE and then get Scientology’s ethics in.

    Tom himself.

    Tom has announced that he ruthlessly gets in ethics on himself, so we won’t address his multiple failed marriages, his lack of manners when jumping on Oprah Winfrey’s couch, his absurd reaction to Peter Overton’s question about his parenting role with his children and Nicole Kidman and certainly we needn’t touch on the rumoured use of slave RPF labour.

    However he does also state that he gets ethics in on others.

    He says “I won’t hesitate to put ethics in on someone else because I put it ruthlessly in on myself.”

    So Tom, here are just two areas where Scientology needs an ethics adjustment – Go for it.

    Psychiatrists, Health Workers and Critics.

    • Tom should meet with Psychiatrists
    -Question them and observe if they are the evil SP’s that Hubbard insists they are.
    -If not, then publicly announce that Hubbard was wrong; remember it doesn’t matter if he said it or not.

    • Tom should meet with Health Workers.
    -Explain to them how he, as a Scientologist, is the only one who can help at an accident.
    -Question them to see if they could possibly help as well.
    -If they are able to help, publicly apologise for demeaning their efforts.

    • Tom should meet with Critics.
    -Question them and observe them to see if they are the haters and SP’s that Scientology insists they are.
    -Ask them what happened to them and what they think is wrong with Scientology.
    -If they are not the ogres that Scientology portrays, then publicly announce that the critics have valid complaints and should be heard.

    Scientology Staff.

    • Tom should observe the exchange situation of the organization.
    -Note how many hours the average staff member gives to his/her org.
    -Compare how much auditing the org is providing the staff member.
    -Demand that Scientology gets its exchange in with its staff members.
    -Ensure that all staff are paid appropriately; as much as David Miscavige if possible.

    • Tom should read aloud the “Way to Happiness” booklet.
    -Observe the conditions demanded of Scientology staff; especially Sea Org staff.
    -Note every outpoint and publicly demand that all staff and S.O. conditions follow that booklet precisely.

    • Tom should read aloud the Scientology creed.
    -Observe how Scientology flaunts the creed.
    -Note every outpoint and publicly demand that every person on the planet be treated per the creed.
    -Publicly demand that the policy on “Fair Game” be cancelled forever and all reference to R2-45 be removed.

    • Tom should visit the RPF’s and see how his fellow “Loyal Officers” are being treated.
    -If he is as shocked as he should be, come out publicly and demand that the RPF’s be dismantled and that all punishment metered out by Scientology to anyone be scrapped forever.

    • Tom should explain how the disconnection policy is good for anyone other than Scientology.
    -If it cannot be justified, come out publicly and demand that the policy be cancelled.

    Go on Tom, I dare you to try to get ethics in on the organization.

    LTG
    Quote Originally Posted by Panda Termint View Post
    Good post! Excellent idea!
    Tom does seem to be rather confused when it comes to the subject of Ethics, this would undoubtedly help him sort things out.
    Tom is stuck in the cult of scientology for the duration: they have his ethics and "preclear" folder.

    Poor Tom, what a fool you have been.
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