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    Good post!
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    There seems to be a lot of people who think that Scientology can continue as long as it can be reformed because people have a right to believe what they want.

    I believe that if you believe in something, you don't need a leader to tell you how to believe in it.

    You don't need restrictions on how to believe it.

    You don't need guidelines on how to believe it.

    You don't need rules and regulations on how to believe your belief.

    You don't need to be isolated from other beliefs or have animosity towards other beliefs because everyone has the right to believe what they want.

    Believeing is believing, it is not controling or denouncing other beliefs.

    When it does that it's not a belief but an agenda.

    When it becomes an agenda then it is perpetrated on others and becomes discriminatory and demeaning of others.

    Beliefs do not have to be organized and spread because then it is not a belief but an agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freethinker View Post
    There seems to be a lot of people who think that Scientology can continue as long as it can be reformed because people have a right to believe what they want.

    I believe that if you believe in something, you don't need a leader to tell you how to believe in it.

    You don't need restrictions on how to believe it.

    You don't need guidelines on how to believe it.

    You don't need rules and regulations on how to believe your belief.

    You don't need to be isolated from other beliefs or have animosity towards other beliefs because everyone has the right to believe what they want.

    Believeing is believing, it is not controling or denouncing other beliefs.

    When it does that it's not a belief but an agenda.

    When it becomes an agenda then it is perpetrated on others and becomes discriminatory and demeaning of others.

    Beliefs do not have to be organized and spread because then it is not a belief but an agenda.
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    I'd like to point out to any lurkers that both Amy Scobee and Jesse Prince are full OT VIIs and if there were any credence to the state of OTVII at all, then one of them might have made mention of it, but neither of them did, even went to point out that it was manure and were non believers.

    If any knew, they would, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by freethinker View Post
    There seems to be a lot of people who think that Scientology can continue as long as it can be reformed because people have a right to believe what they want.

    I believe that if you believe in something, you don't need a leader to tell you how to believe in it.

    You don't need restrictions on how to believe it.

    You don't need guidelines on how to believe it.

    You don't need rules and regulations on how to believe your belief.

    You don't need to be isolated from other beliefs or have animosity towards other beliefs because everyone has the right to believe what they want.

    Believeing is believing, it is not controling or denouncing other beliefs.

    When it does that it's not a belief but an agenda.

    When it becomes an agenda then it is perpetrated on others and becomes discriminatory and demeaning of others.

    Beliefs do not have to be organized and spread because then it is not a belief but an agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feral View Post
    I'd like to point out to any lurkers that both Amy Scobee and Jesse Prince are full OT VIIs and if there were any credence to the state of OTVII at all, then one of them might have made mention of it, but neither of them did even went to point out that it was manure and were non believers.

    If any knew, they would, huh?
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    Yes. Scientology can be reformed into a deep hole in the ground, then a lotta bullshit thrown on top, then covered over and walked away from.

    No no, not even a gravestone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by freethinker View Post
    There seems to be a lot of people who think that Scientology can continue as long as it can be reformed because people have a right to believe what they want.

    I believe that if you believe in something, you don't need a leader to tell you how to believe in it.

    You don't need restrictions on how to believe it.

    You don't need guidelines on how to believe it.

    You don't need rules and regulations on how to believe your belief.

    You don't need to be isolated from other beliefs or have animosity towards other beliefs because everyone has the right to believe what they want.

    Believeing is believing, it is not controling or denouncing other beliefs.

    When it does that it's not a belief but an agenda.

    When it becomes an agenda then it is perpetrated on others and becomes discriminatory and demeaning of others.

    Beliefs do not have to be organized and spread because then it is not a belief but an agenda.



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    Quote Originally Posted by freethinker View Post
    There seems to be a lot of people who think that Scientology can continue as long as it can be reformed because people have a right to believe what they want.

    I believe that if you believe in something, you don't need a leader to tell you how to believe in it.

    You don't need restrictions on how to believe it.

    You don't need guidelines on how to believe it.

    You don't need rules and regulations on how to believe your belief.

    You don't need to be isolated from other beliefs or have animosity towards other beliefs because everyone has the right to believe what they want.

    Believeing is believing, it is not controling or denouncing other beliefs.

    When it does that it's not a belief but an agenda.

    When it becomes an agenda then it is perpetrated on others and becomes discriminatory and demeaning of others.

    Beliefs do not have to be organized and spread because then it is not a belief but an agenda.
    I totally agree with this and that is the way I go about with my own beliefs.
    For now, though, I'll settle with the riddance of the disconnection, slave labor, physical beatings, and the other obvious injustices of the CoS as the rest would call for an entire re-working of pretty much every religion on Earth (which may take a while.)
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