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    Quote Originally Posted by GLH View Post
    Thanks, AnonKat for both of these videos. Brought back a lot of memories of AAC that were great. It also reminded me of the absolute terror and hate that is possible in mankind imposed on everyone including those of us that were part of AAC as public. One doesn't escape this evil just being a public person. You can still see this on Marty's site not to mention CofS.
    You thanked AnonKat for both videos.....I only saw one on the AAC with David Mayo and others being interviewed. What was the other video?

    What terror and hate were imposed on those that were part of AAC as public?

    From what I saw on the video, I wish that someone had told me about AAC and taken me there. I would much rather have been there than living the life I was living with the CoS. It would have been nice to have the good parts of Scientology with out the bad stuff, like I expected in the first place.

    I would like to see CoS die and I would love to see D Mayo start up the AAC again. It looks like it was a wonderful place to train, audit and receive auditing.

    Thanks AnonKat for putting up this video. It helped me to watch it. It blew some charge for me. It has helped me to sort out some things.....it's still sorting. David Mayo seems so sane. Watching this video made me see the supression and control that came at me from the first week I was involved in the CoS in 1973 that I put up with because there was no competition that I knew of outside the CoS, where I could go elsewhere to get auditing.

    It's really sad that the AAC got smashed and David Mayo got attacked like he did for putting something together for people that was better than the CoS, without all the suppression and control.

    It was good to see the comparison of the AAC with the CoS. I wish I had been there while the AAC was open.
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    I think in the end it's being around people, being part of a group and interacting with all kinds of foolks that matter. The process of living

    regarding the difference between the two places.

    Give a man a knife and the sane man will cut a cake , the insane man will use it to cut you.

    Quote Originally Posted by FoTi View Post
    You thanked AnonKat for both videos.....I only saw one on the AAC with David Mayo and others being interviewed. What was the other video?

    What terror and hate were imposed on those that were part of AAC as public?

    From what I saw on the video, I wish that someone had told me about AAC and taken me there. I would much rather have been there than living the life I was living with the CoS. It would have been nice to have the good parts of Scientology with out the bad stuff, like I expected in the first place.

    I would like to see CoS die and I would love to see D Mayo start up the AAC again. It looks like it was a wonderful place to train, audit and receive auditing.

    Thanks AnonKat for putting up this video. It helped me to watch it. It blew some charge for me. It has helped me to sort out some things.....it's still sorting. David Mayo seems so sane. Watching this video made me see the supression and control that came at me from the first week I was involved in the CoS in 1973 that I put up with because there was no competition that I knew of outside the CoS, where I could go elsewhere to get auditing.

    It's really sad that the AAC got smashed and David Mayo got attacked like he did for putting something together for people that was better than the CoS, without all the suppression and control.

    It was good to see the comparison of the AAC with the CoS. I wish I had been there while the AAC was open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonKat View Post
    I think in the end it's being around people, being part of a group and interacting with all kinds of foolks that matter. The process of living

    regarding the difference between the two places.

    Give a man a knife and the sane man will cut a cake , the insane man will use it to cut you.
    And if the man is a black magician he will cut you but make you believe you did it to yourself.

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    You thanked AnonKat for both videos.....I only saw one on the AAC with David Mayo and others being interviewed. What was the other video?

    What terror and hate were imposed on those that were part of AAC as public?

    From what I saw on the video, I wish that someone had told me about AAC and taken me there.
    I hope you saw the other on http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthrea...t=16703&page=5 post 47
    When people follow you on the freeway shining lights in your face while driving, PI's tracking your every move at AAC and making recordings, unsolicited phone calls, being called a squirrel and part of a suppressive group, receiving squirrel auditing to name a few.
    I too wish you could have availed yourself of the services at AAC. As I have stated before, it didn't matter whether the "tech" worked it was delivered in a sane atmosphere and at a price the "common man" could afford.
    One benefits when one can sit down and discuss his or her troubles with someone willing to listen!

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    Fighting your way out of the cult paper bag publicly can be embarrassing. I think it can serve as a signpost to those on their way out, particularly with your present remembrances and attitudes appended.

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    Wonder where Donna and Harvey Haber are these days - both very good people.
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    Default Marty doesn't like the video

    Dan Koon recently posted that video on Marty's site and Marty's comments indicated his displeasure.

    When all this recent interest Mayo came up I created a page for him at freeheber.com, posted the video and wrote this:

    "There are two parts of Scientology - The "Tech" part is holy and spiritual and caters to the redemptive capabilities of the human spirit.

    The other part (referring to current Corporate Scientology organizational setup) is an "attack dog". control-freak, money motivated, abusive, rude and unsavory-unpleasant group of mind-bent automatons.

    David Mayo grew up in and was the very best practitioner of the "Tech" part of Scientology. He was the best of the best in that arena. L Ron Hubbard gave him the greatest responsibility to oversee it and guide it into the future.

    When an evil man successfully drove a wedge between LRH and David, David was crushed by the dark side of the organization and discarded like foul excrement. That dark side, (the Sea Organization) chased and harassed David for a decade until finally settling its protracted legal harassment with cash and a gag agreement.

    David was ill equipped to deal with the massive force the dark side was able to bring to bear on him. Who could? Some criticize him for taking a payoff and not carrying on "the good fight". I don't. David Mayo is a great man who will one day be vindicated and applauded for his courage and contribution." Vertley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertley View Post
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    When an evil man successfully drove a wedge between LRH and David, David was crushed by the dark side of the organization and discarded like foul excrement. That dark side, (the Sea Organization) chased and harassed David for a decade until finally settling its protracted legal harassment with cash and a gag agreement.

    <snip> Vertley
    I wonder who developed and encouraged that dark side of the organisation?
    A human statue made of living stone / A paradox etched in human bone / If you could see behind his thin disguise /There`s a hidden glint of madness in his eyes. / Many men are fooled by his smile / His superficial grace his charm his style / Sardonicus is everybody`s friend /Sardonicus keeps smiling to the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLH View Post
    I hope you saw the other on http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthrea...t=16703&page=5 post 47
    When people follow you on the freeway shining lights in your face while driving, PI's tracking your every move at AAC and making recordings, unsolicited phone calls, being called a squirrel and part of a suppressive group, receiving squirrel auditing to name a few.
    I too wish you could have availed yourself of the services at AAC. As I have stated before, it didn't matter whether the "tech" worked it was delivered in a sane atmosphere and at a price the "common man" could afford.
    One benefits when one can sit down and discuss his or her troubles with someone willing to listen!
    Thanks GLH.
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    It just looks very sad to me. They all look very lost and needy. That's Scientology, underneath the makeup.
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