Sea Org & The Standford Prison Experiment; Video

[TheSneakster]

The behaviour shown in the opening video on this thread is by no means limited
I disagree strongly with one "result" attributed to the Stanford experiment which asserts that all humans can be made to waver and engage cruelty to others. I know of instances where some persons did not stoop to inhumane behaviour even when others around them did. And one guy who stood resolute when threatened with death. Some have performed acts of kindness, despite risk to themselves, during tortuous times --whom I shall forever admire and respect. You must see that there are courageous people even in the most pernicious of times. I have.

David,

It should be noted that the Stanford Prison Experiment findings are not Science: the researcher's paper failed to pass scientific peer review for various reasons. The most notable of these being that the experimenter chose to participate directly as a "guard" and biased the behavior of the "guards" due to their perception they would not be paid if they did not do as he expected them to do. Furthermore, this experiment has never been repeated and so those results were never confirmed.

No general statements made about human behavior based on the Stanford Prison Experiment are scientifically valid, no matter how many cult "experts" wave this around to support their claims.

[degraded being]

British replication of Stanford Prison Experiment.

http://crimepsychblog.com/?p=987

http://www.lucifereffect.com/about_c...extensions.htm

There have been experiments where a prison setting was not used, to see if people
would inflict pain on others for a reward, or to comply with an authoratative person.
Real pain was not involved because actors were used, so there have probably been a lot less ethical and other issues to deal with to do the experiments.

[xseaorguk]

I'm currently in the psychiatric dept. of the clinic I was put it 20 years ago.
Fortunately they have a good library where I am allowed to use the computer
The electro shock treatment has gotten rid of my terrible headaches

They had me digging large holes here on a programme called:
"Industry of depth"

I am learning a new trade while, so that I can survive when outside.
I'm training to become a "Big Farmer"

[thefatman]

It's a very well-known experiment that ultimately had to be shut down because of the terror it caused, though unintended by the researchers. Such an experiment is unlikely to be be approved by today's human ethics committees.

PD

Actually that was only part of it, Zimbardo got directly involved in the experiment as a quasi-warden and it took his wife and colleagues to talk to him before he realised how batshit insane he was (e.g., he was getting paranoid that the subjects were going to try a prison escape and he was acting like it was "his prison"). There's no way on Earth this would be approved by an ethics committee given how it went the last time it was done.

No general statements made about human behavior based on the Stanford Prison Experiment are scientifically valid, no matter how many cult "experts" wave this around to support their claims.

While unscientific, the information this experiment yielded is quite valid. Cult experts use this because the study holds external validity, despite the lack of scientific veracity.