I have never seen Karen's certificates, I haven't seen DMs either. It wouldn't be impossible to forge a certificate for that matter. Now anyone who has had more training than Dave is a target. Karen's name was very well known throughout the scn world, she was known and respected, something I'm sure the shrimp was jealous of. Her name was almost spoken in hushed reverence. Knowing about her history changes nothing. There's no shame in earning an honest living, and beautiful women have often used their assets, but to use her confessions like this is obscene. The church has no morals, it totally violates their fake priest and religious invisibility cloak.