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    Reality has shown to be consistent over the years. It is our picture of it that changes.

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    Science of Survival Cuba dictated 1951

    Hotword count

    Language of Certainty


    IS 3896... ARE 1028...

    THAT 1779... THIS 1484...

    SHOULD...555 ...BECAUSE 219.. BUT 814,

    THEY 326, YOU 224, I 179, IF 441, ONLY 372,

    COULD 221..., MAYBE 62 , PERHAPS 38, SOMETIMES 52,


    PRECLEAR 1355 , CLEAR 109, RELEASE 55,


    AFFINITY 156, REALITY 243, COMM 453,


    AUDITOR 1201, ENGRAM 1,186, TONE 731, REACTIVE 133


    ANGER 141, FEAR 73,


    THETA 871, ENTHETA 503 , CASE 853



    THE 17,579 ... AND 5, 642

    SOS 1951

    100
    Nullification actually begins with domination

    99
    It is not danger by violence … the family should worry; it is this insidious adoption of domination and nullification methods. This ... brings them down the tone scale gradually, hardly noticeably but nevertheless inevitably.

    99
    The second category would be that of punishment drive, or domination. Here the individual uses alarm, threats, and the general promise of pain unless compliance is given by the others around him

    109
    No words bitter enough or strong enough could be levelled at
    authoritarian educational systems

    Quote Originally Posted by 25 August 1966-The A-S personality
    There’s nothing wrong with dominance. When I say there’s nothing right, wrong
    otherwise—it’s just dominance is dominance, you know.
    217
    Hypnotism It is the sort of control mechanism in which an authoritarian individual, cult, or ideology delight


    submission to being hypnotized is analogous to being raped, with the exception that the individual can, generally, recover from being raped

    the percentage of people who remember that they have been hypnotized or
    how many times is very slight.


    188
    hypnotic suggestions, which are a light form of engram

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    Quote Originally Posted by Type4_PTS View Post
    You wouldn't happen to have a link by chance?
    Ron E-ffect Reality Comm

    Affect-ion Reality Comm

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Dewolf on L.Ron Hubbard
    1/10th of 1percent of Scientology
    In reference to Philadelphia 1952

    Access without liability he says....

    Love by Will he says.

    No caring. No sharing.

    No feelings. None he says. ...

    Love is no good; puts you at effect-point he says.

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthrea...RON-HUBBARD-JR

    Quote Originally Posted by L. Ron Hubbard Admissions- in or about 1947

    The desires of other people have no hypnotic effect upon you.

    The love of women is not necessary to your ego.You will satisfy them easily. You do not care.

    The copyist has no effect upon your work. You don't care what she reads.

    It is indifferent to you whether your work is accepted. You do not
    care if it sells.

    You do not care what people think of your poetry

    Vida..You like her. You do not love her to desperation.

    Desires of others do not affect you

    The two women you knew...You do not love them,

    It is indifferent to you whether your work is accepted. You do not
    care if it sells.

    You do not care how much work there is to do

    You are tolerant towards your mother and Father.....They do not now affect you.

    The opinions of your aunts and uncles are worthless. You are kind to
    them. They mean nothing to you.

    You do not care what people think of your art.

    You are merciless to any who cross your rule but they do not affect you emotionally.

    Your prudence results from judgment, not emotions.


    http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50gran...000-03-11.html
    Cause & Affect-ion
    Cause & Effect-ion

    In the Current 'Ethics' textbook , there is a statement about Love Ideals and morals not being above Survival.

    Quote Originally Posted by Handbook for PC

    At 4.0 which is cheerfulness, Affinity is affect-ionate

    2.0 down to near 1.0., pretending affection.
    Quote Originally Posted by Self Analysis pg 100

    Note that the word like is used to mean admire or feel affection for and also to be similar to.
    Quote Originally Posted by DMSMH
    At the bottom of the [emotion]scale a person has been forced to be, and everything affects him

    The level of depth of consciousness can be affected by emotion..

    The auditor discharges the emotion .. until the pre-clear is no longer
    affected by them.

    The insidious aspects of the sympathy.. affect the the individual.

    This is done by returning back over the incident many times until it no longer affect[ions] him emotionally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Q&A PERIOD: SHSBC-059 – 19.9.61-1203 STUCK FLOW

    Female voice: Ron, how does this affect you? Always instructing students.

    LRH: What's the question? Huh?

    Female voice: The stuck flow. You're an Instructor, always instructing the student.

    LRH: How does this affect me?

    Female voice: Yes.

    LRH: A stuck flow? Oooh... I got a long way – I got a long way to go before this gets to be a stuck flow....

    Female voice: All right.

    Remember something about Scientology.

    Scientology is the only thing which undoes its own spells. ...

    Anything we do in Scientology can be run out.

    Quote Originally Posted by SHSBC- 3 May 1962

    LRH: I know, but what about affection in general?

    PC: Well, youuuuuuu – well, actually, it’s a trap.

    LRH: Uh-huh.

    PC: It’s – that traps men.

    LRH: Affection is a trap.

    PC: Yeah.

    LRH: That’s the way it equates.

    PC: Mmm.

    LRH: That’s the way it equates.

    PC: Yeah.

    LRH: All right. Very good.


    Now, in this session we found out something – and a good auditor could have extrapolated from this –

    we found out affection was trapping people.

    See, it was a bad thing. Affection was a bad thing.

    There's an old triangle, and if you think real hard you might be able to remember it.

    It's called the ARC triangle. And we have found the A triangle was an overt

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    I hope you are having a great
    day today.

    Starting the day right is very
    important.

    When you are in the "mood" and feeling
    the good energy level in your
    body - you are primed for persuasion
    and covert hypnosis.

    If you are ready to uncover a
    hidden techniques


    ...then read on...


    Today, we will talk about using
    the power of imagination and co-relation.

    What the heck this means?

    Allow me to explain.


    Let take for example, you have
    a friend who owes you money.

    And he doesn't want to return
    the money to you by giving you
    excuses that he has no cash.

    And let's assume he is a lawyer.


    You ask him by asking him to
    imagine a scenario.

    "Let's say you have
    a client. And you put in a lot of
    effort to solve his case.

    As with every client, you would
    expect payment for your work done
    right", you asked...

    He will probably nod his head at this
    point.

    And you can continue by asking,"
    If your client then decide not
    to pay you by giving the excuse he
    has no money. What will you do?

    Will you be angry? Will you feel
    that your effort has not been returned
    in kind?"


    You see the point here now?

    By asking him to imagine a scenario,
    where he is now the creditor...and
    the tables are turned...you make him
    experience the feeling you had.

    You are making him sit in your shoes.

    When we make him imagine, and co-relate
    both examples, you are actually guiding
    him to convince himself he is in the
    wrong. By imagining, he will be able
    to come out with an answer in a way only he can.

    That's a lot more persuasive than by
    simply arguing emotionally as most people would do.



    "There’s nothing every very weird about hypnotism.

    It is the easiest thing in the world. ..

    That’s all there is to that. He… he just agrees little by little....."




    ."...and we show that the greater and greater agreement,

    all you do to hypnotize somebody is just make him agree… agree… agree

    and after that he’ll see anything.

    He’ll do anything,

    he’ll see anything.

    He agrees, agrees, agrees."


    Stage Hypnotist L.Ron Hubbard 1952

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    L. Ron hubbard was a trained hypnotist, and had mentioned in Dianetics: the Modern Science of Mental Health as well as Dianetics: The Evolution of a Science, how he had used this knowledge in his development of Dianetics.

    According to Hubbard, hypnosis is a relatively simple mechanism:

    “By deep trance or drugs we take a patient into amnesia trance, a state of being wherein the ‘I’ is not in control but the operator is the ‘I’ (and that’s all there is, really, to the function of hypnosis: the transfer of analytical power through the law of affinity from subject to operator, a thing which had a racial development and survival value in animals which ran in packs).”

    (From Dianetics Modern Science of Mental Health)

    Of course, Hubbard created great rapport with his audience by regaling him with his exaggerated stories, and his charming and charismatic personality. This made it easy for his audience to accept all that he was saying without question.

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    I would hear him laugh from time to time during his lectures, sometimes I wondered what it was that was so funny... perhaps at the time he was not laughing with us, but laughing at us, thinking:
    You swallowed that WHOPPER? LOL
    The Inventor of the E-Meter, Volney Matheson describes how Hubbard got you: LINK

    How to become an Expert Operator(c) 1931 30 Mb pdf

    "Contrary to general belief, it has been my experience that the more intelligent the subject, the easier it is to induce hypnosis" Ralph Slater - "Hypnotism" May 1950 Large PDF of entire book

    I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Type4_PTS View Post
    You wouldn't happen to have a link by chance?
    If I got it right, lrh said that affinity is agreement. Agreement is an inflow, disagrrement is an outflow (PDC lectures), when you inflow, it is like the comm cycle, where you are at the receipt point or hence, effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade View Post
    If I got it right, lrh said that affinity is agreement. Agreement is an inflow, disagrrement is an outflow (PDC lectures), when you inflow, it is like the comm cycle, where you are at the receipt point or hence, effect.
    That could be why some people talk all the time, but never hear what is said to them.

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    This thread made me realize that we would use some of these techniques to reg people!

    The DEI scale was a key piece. We kept "enlightening" the person through their objections. Letting them go thru all this resisting and when they were beaten down, they'd give in thinking it was their decision. We even had tag teams in case we got tired ourselves, to continue on with the reg cycle.

    Another technique was repeating it over and over. It came from the book of case remedies, some R2 something number. You simply ack'd the person and kept on regging them.

    Another one was to keep talking at them until they went into agreement. It's from the Admiration lecture series. We were told to read and drill and use these techniques, and even had to go to qual and get corrected on failed closes, i.e.for not being good enough hypnotists!!!

    Sorry, if I ever regged you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lermanet_com View Post
    I would hear him laugh from time to time during his lectures, sometimes I wondered what it was that was so funny... perhaps at the time he was not laughing with us, but laughing at us, thinking:
    You swallowed that WHOPPER? LOL
    I reckon, ..also the pauses & the stutters.

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