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    Well done, chaps.

    I'm sure there must be some public rights of way that cross the grounds of the manor that aught to be exploited next time.

    It would be so pleasant to see footage of a group of anons and exes tally ho'ing on horse back chasing a toy fox through their event next time the shrimp put's on a show.
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    See Ax's video here of him having his camera grabbed by a scientology security guard:


    Hopefully more footage to follow.
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    Here is a short write-up of the IAS protest on the 14th of October from my perspective.

    When I arrived, there were a number of the Old Guard in attendance by the main entrance of St Hill. Although there was still 3 hours until the event kicked off, there was already a lot of activity with vehicles going in and out of the gates and also Scientologists arriving on foot.

    The weather was terrific which made things a bit more enjoyable, but in any case we had a pretty good time.

    Apart from my camera grab and a couple of exchanges with the odd staff member (clearly all staff and public had been told to try and ignore us), not a lot happened. Well, apart from one amusing incident.

    As we were leaving, I noticed a shadowy figure hiding behind a tree. So, I jumped out of my motor and ran after them. He was moving pretty quickly, but hadnít noticed me, so I was able to catch them up. The guy, who I hereby christen ĎCovert Camera Guyí was dressed in dark clothing and carrying a video camera. Evidently he had been following us as we left in order to take some covert footage. Rather strange behaviour as we are all well known to the cult and had been standing in full view of the assembled masses for several hours. What does secret video taping achieve?

    Anyway, when I announced my presence to a now startled CCG, he pulled his hood over his face and attempted to hide behind a tree at the side of the road. After a few seconds he realised that there was no hiding and headed for the sanctuary of the cultís car park, while attempting to train his camera on me.

    Due to the worsening light and the speed that I was running at whilst trying to film, the quality isnít very good, so Iíve posted some stills instead of the whole thing. This is possibly the same person spotted in the 'Can't Hide' video.

    Without counting all the vehicles, it seemed to me that there were fewer people arriving than when I last went to the actual event in 2007, so I wonder if they had to hire more extras to pad the audience out?

    Iíll post more video as I get round to editing them, but in the meantime here are some vids youíve already seen and some new photos.

    Iíve posted some screenshots of the video where my camera was grabbed and if anyone could ID the guy in the sunglasses that would be great. Iím guessing that he is American (from his accent) and it is quite possible that he has already been sent away in order to avoid any awkward questions from the police.











    The complete set of photos can be viewed here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/3025061...7627917793720/


    A selection:

    Camera Grab Guy











    Covert Camera Guy
















    Selected other photos



























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    Ex for Excellent!! What was that Scilon doing scurrying about in the undergrowth, Womble Tech?

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    The below was in East Grinstead.
    http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic....=unread#unread

    jensting, posting on WWP, wrote:
    Right, back on the 'net!

    pics starting at http://www.flickr.com/photos/jenstin...in/photostream . No good ones, sorry, busy getting my phone grabbed :(

    An randomer stormed over, right after we had started letting lose with Rick Astley and shouted that we had to stop the music, that we were waking his baby and that he "would fucking kill you" (directed at another protester) if we didn't turn the sound down.

    This was at 12:20 - ish on a busy day in the middle of the high street. You could hear the musc, but inside a car, say, it could have been less loud than the car stereo.

    Especially if the car was parked 50m - ish away, as his car was. He - the randomer - went back to the car, took a child out, picked it up and walked back to us. I had started videoing with my phone, since this had all the hallmarks of a Bad Situation. The randomer stormed right up to me, stopped close up, grabbed my phone and yelled at the top of his lungs "YOU KICKED MY BABY!" and threw my poor old phone into the far of two lanes of busy traffic. He then pulled back (as did I) while he was interacting with the general populace (who were going WTF!); I was encouraging the protesters to ring the police. One minute ago.

    The police got there. By that time, the randomer had left(!), gone back past where his car was. We explained the situation to the police, a police man and I went in search of the car and were directed to the correct one by a member of the public who had seen the whole thing and gave a statement to the policeman. I then went with the police to the station.

    On the way to the station, the best thing happened: The police men got a radio call and turned around, ending up driving after the randomer with the sirens blaring, pulling him over and having a chat after which one policeman drove back to the station with me and the other in the randomer's car with the randomer, the baby and someone else (who had been in the car, on the mobile phone - not driving). This was barely a chase, the siren only had to be used to make a couple of extra overtaking manoeuvres and the perp was driving along quietly.

    That said, being in a police car, sirens blaring driving after the guy who just tried to take a swing at me, that was excellent!

    It almost made up for the sick feeling at the bottom of my stomach at the thought that someone would complain about noise (hmm, well, OK), go get a baby, walk back with that baby and get VERY CONFRONTATIONAL while holding that baby. And then walk away.

    More news as the police get back to me. Needlessly to say, I'm pressing criminal charges as much as I can.

    A clam with a baby sent our friend Non the clown to hospital for a fortnight when he and three of his clam friend pushed Nono to the ground and kicked him in the head.

    Ah, well, the mobile phone survived (a Samsung Nexus S, I'm not affiliated with Samsung, but I'm now a customer who is somewhat more impressed with the solidity of the product)

    I know what it is with East Grinstead. It's the same stuff that happened years ago, http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/duk...ead9805_b.html half way down.

    tl;dr Always have several video cameras running. Do not break this rule. Look at San Fran raids to see how it's done. This time, we failed to have redundant cameras, and we were lucky that my one camera did not in fact get broken.

    The clams were snappy at St Hill this year (see earlier report), you know where to be next year!

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    Default Re: 14 Oct 2011 Saint Hill IAS Event

    Deliberately placing children near needless violence . . . now where have I seen that before?


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    Default Re: 14 Oct 2011 Saint Hill IAS Event

    Another video from the protest.



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    I can contain myself no longer.Even with video, things can be missed.

    When Ax first appeared on the scene, he wanted a photo of Terril and myself, I walked off muttering to myself, not on your life, or words to that effect.

    Tony, quite rightly took the piss out of Terril all afternoon, this went right over his head. He(Terril) had the megaphone on two occasions, Tony declaring him rubbish and took the megaphone back. This might seem mean, and it was, I wouldn't have done it, however, I understand why it was done and in many respects he did deserve it. At one point a car stopped and asked Terril what his sign meant. I did not hear the reply. His sign read Google Tech outside CoS. I would not have a clue what it meant either had I not done the research and spoken to Terril at length,previously.

    I know having spoken to someone quite a bit whom had only got out of Co$ a year before(just over a year ago now)that it is difficult for people whom believed it to be their religion to let go, especially when they have devoted so much of their life to this, I do understand regardless of what people might think. However, I do not believe in pussyfooting around. I've tried that, it doesn't work.I've tried being blunt, that doesn't work.I've tried being nice, that doesn't work. I've tried just showing the truth, that doesn't work. Some people just like to push buttons, they are called Scientologists and they follow Hubbard's every word. Most of these people never even met him, yet they blindly follow because they do not have a mind of their own.

    To the admins of this board, if it is time to ban me, let it be so, Iv'e had my warning, carry on!It's come to my attention alot of people have disappeared from this board, or have they?
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    Sharone, I think you have more patience than I. Standing next to Freezone signs is very difficult - better signs that will actually be noticed and understood in those seconds people drive by are the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharone Stainforth View Post
    I can contain myself no longer.Even with video, things can be missed.

    When Ax first appeared on the scene, he wanted a photo of Terril and myself, I walked off muttering to myself, not on your life, or words to that effect.

    Tony, quite rightly took the piss out of Terril all afternoon, this went right over his head. He(Terril) had the megaphone on two occasions, Tony declaring him rubbish and took the megaphone back. This might seem mean, and it was, I wouldn't have done it, however, I understand why it was done and in many respects he did deserve it. At one point a car stopped and asked Terril what his sign meant. I did not hear the reply. His sign read Google Tech outside CoS. I would not have a clue what it meant either had I not done the research and spoken to Terril at length,previously.

    I know having spoken to someone quite a bit whom had only got out of Co$ a year before(just over a year ago now)that it is difficult for people whom believed it to be their religion to let go, especially when they have devoted so much of their life to this, I do understand regardless of what people might think. However, I do not believe in pussyfooting around. I've tried that, it doesn't work.I've tried being blunt, that doesn't work.I've tried being nice, that doesn't work. I've tried just showing the truth, that doesn't work. Some people just like to push buttons, they are called Scientologists and they follow Hubbard's every word. Most of these people never even met him, yet they blindly follow because they do not have a mind of their own.

    To the admins of this board, if it is time to ban me, let it be so, Iv'e had my warning, carry on!It's come to my attention alot of people have disappeared from this board, or have they?
    I did wonder why both you and Terril were both at the protest, as I knew there was friction between you.
    I bet the arriving $cientologists thought that a few local "downnstat" homeless tramps had turned up with some nutty signs.
    Good to see you looking well Sharone. Loved your sign!
    You were probably the only person in or outside the premises that ever actually met his Royle 'ighness.....flubberlips personally.

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