The danger of losing yourself

[Voltaire's Child]

Geir,

In Scn it is said that people get "ARC broken" when someone feels differently about something than they do. "Reality" break causing break in "affinity". (I know I can say this to you as I believe you still have an interest in Scn and would not mind the nomenclature).

That is quite true. That is where most flsmes come from and this sort of thing.

Though it does occur to me that since no two people are 100% alike, one's views won't align completely with anyone else's. So it is potentially possible to feel alienated, angry, "ARC broken" or a tad bit pissed off at anyone.

That's when being the bigger person comes into play. We all as individuals should strive to accept the differences in others. This can be difficult as in political differences really being upsetting to people.

In the long run, we are all just people who are trying to figure out what's best and trying to find love and happiness and to keep hold of such that we do have.

This is what we all should keep in mind.

[FoTi]

Yes....interesting article......very good.

When I saw so many things going wrong or how it seemed like it shouldn't be that way, while in, I have wondered after getting out, why I kept going with it for so many years.

When I would see these things or experience them myself, it never occurred to me that the tech might not always be correct. I would always think that it must be an SP, or someone wasn't trained correctly, and it would get fixed. The thought just never crossed my mind that there could possibly be anything wrong with the tech.....

And yet.....every time I read KSW, when I got to the part about "knowing it's the correct tech".....or however that line goes.....I would always wonder.....how can I be sure I have the correct tech? How does one do that? How do I know that the HCOB that I'm reading is the correct tech? So many of them were changed over the years....and the Bridge kept being changed.

Also, Scientology is so spread out all over the place with so many different departments and orgs that it is impossible to see what's going on all over from where you are at......so it's hard to put the pieces together......especially when no one is allowed to talk freely within the group.

Seems that LRH's one basic law was "Do as thou wilt"......but he had another law....don't argue or disagree with LRH or you will suffer consequences......he will punish you.....thus he instilled fear in everyone with his bullying. But....the govt didn't fear him and his bullying tactics didn't stop them from going after him, so he had to run and hide from them. The big OT was a coward.

[degraded being]

Quote: "In case you happen to care. "

Love the title. Such concern..


Love the ending.

Quote: "PS: I realize that this blog post may rattle some stable data or even piss off a couple of camps. If so, I consider that to be a step forward."

Oh yeah... that is going to really "rattle some stable data". How did you think of that Geir? Think for ourselves! Revolutionary!

Quote: "...or even piss off a couple of camps. If so, I consider that to be a step forward."

A step forward...really! Now that the heathens have heard the pure truth, perhaps they may just stir from their ignorant slumber.....perhaps. There is always hope.

I'm looking forward to the next sermon on "Something you know already, but i haven't yet obnosed that you know, so will preach it to you."

[Voltaire's Child]

I took it as "if you're interested". I didn't think he meant "care" as in the ordinary sense of "care".

Geir's English is impeccable- probably better than mine own- but, AFAIK, it is his second language. (or third or fourth).

[degraded being]

I took it as "if you're interested". I didn't think he meant "care" as in the ordinary sense of "care".

Geir's English is impeccable- probably better than mine own- but, AFAIK, it is his second language. (or third or fourth).

I am not criticising his English (fluency) far from it.

I also assume his English is impeccable, that's why I like his selection of words.

"In case you happen to care" ....... see, that's something to dwell on and enjoy.

Geir always gets his point across.

The title of his post, along with the content of the article, and the P.S. that he finishes with is all very Geir...or should I say Clear?

[Mystic]

This is one of the lessons we learned having experienced L. Ron Hubbard's dark farce called "Scientology". Belief has a wide range of functions from accepting a lie as valid and then hallucinating all sorts of "truths", through hope, faith and on through intense love.

Interestingly enough, our term "belief" has "intense love" as its prime meaning. In English "be-" as a prefix means "intense". "lief" traces to the German "lieb" traces to the Latin "libido" (love).

[Krautfag]

Interestingly enough, our term "belief" has "intense love" as its prime meaning. In English "be-" as a prefix means "intense". "lief" traces to the German "lieb" traces to the Latin "libido" (love).

Errm, for once you're not right, mystic

"lief" doesn't stem from "lieb", it comes from Old English "lēafa", which in turn is pre-Germanic "laubo", meaning "belief".

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/belief

"lieb", "liebe" itself is a pretty new word, which came in use long after the angelsaxons left for the rainy island.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Liebe

[Dilettante]

Errm, for once you're not right, mystic

"lief" doesn't stem from "lieb", it comes from Old English "lēafa", which in turn is pre-Germanic "laubo", meaning "belief".

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/belief

"lieb", "liebe" itself is a pretty new word, which came in use long after the angelsaxons left for the rainy island.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Liebe

Krautfag-really, no danger of losing yourself there.

[freethinker]

I don't think he is wrong.

belief late 12c., replaced O.E. geleafa "belief, faith," from W.Gmc. *ga-laubon (cf. O.S. gilobo, M.Du. gelove, O.H.G. giloubo, Ger. glaube), from *galaub- "dear, esteemed." The prefix was altered on analogy of the verb believe. The distinction of the final consonant from that of believe developed 15c. Belief used to mean "trust in God," while faith meant "loyalty to a person based on promise or duty" (a sense preserved in keep one's faith, in good (or bad) faith and in common usage of faithful, faithless, which contain no notion of divinity). But faith, as cognate of L. fides, took on the religious sense beginning in 14c. translations, and belief had by 16c. become limited to "mental acceptance of something as true," from the religious use in the sense of "things held to be true as a matter of religious doctrine" (a sense attested from early 13c.).
believe O.E. belyfan "to believe," earlier geleafa (Mercian), gelefa (Northumbrian), gelyfan (W.Saxon) "believe," from P.Gmc. *ga-laubjan "hold dear, love" (cf. O.S. gilobian, Du. geloven, O.H.G. gilouben, Ger. glauben), from PIE base *leubh- "to like, desire" (see love). Spelling beleeve is common till 17c.; then altered perhaps by influence of relieve. To believe on instead of in was more common in 16c. but now is a peculiarity of theology; believe of also sometimes was used in 17c Source: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?...wed_in_frame=0

Errm, for once you're not right, mystic
"lief" doesn't stem from "lieb", it comes from Old English "lēafa", which in turn is pre-Germanic "laubo", meaning "belief".

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/belief

"lieb", "liebe" itself is a pretty new word, which came in use long after the angelsaxons left for the rainy island.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Liebe

[ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn]

In case you happen to care.

If executed properly you not only lose yourself you lose all your money too ... but that is the point of a con game.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick