Seeking Advice On A "Hypothetical" Situation

[duddins]

Not that you shouldn't call the police if you can't yourself.

The point is to recognize what one can and can't do and to act accordingly. I have no trouble calling the police if a child is at risk or a woman is being beat by her husband. I did this more than once for my sister who was a victim of spousal abuse yet kept going back for more.

If I were a guest, I would have to find a way out and quick. I would not want my children bearing witness to domestic violence. But then again, my point of view is based on my own life experience.

I respect your point of view.

Our experiences are very different.

Meanwhile this thread has taken a left hand turn..........

Peace.

[Terril park]

Furthermore I have handled drug addicts without the police or rehab.

I had a drunken druggy cousin who tore through my family for 15 years causing all sorts of damage, almost drove her parents into bankrupcy with legal biils, hospital bills, rehab, new cars, raising the children she abandonded. One week I went to visit and she took me to a bar. On the way home she drunkenly stopped the car in a busy intersection and I almost got hit by a Mack truck sideways. I went to the drivers side of the car and pulled her out and beat the shit out of her. She looked like the Mack truck had actually hit her. She checked into AA the next day and hasn't had a drink in fifteen years. I'm her last daughter's godmother.

I had a heroin addict do the doubt formula and decide he didn't want to be a heroin addict and he's been clean for 14 years.

T.I.

T.I.

Way to go TI.

[Terril park]

I'll toss in my opinion for what it's worth. I believe BT's general story, even if I don't like all the noise along with it.

Paul

Seconded.

[Terril park]

As theories go, its a good as another....the proof of course, is yet to be seen.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
So we will see if it moves beyond the theory stage.


My "opinion" is that they are distinct individuals, with 2 very distinct and different experiences with "the onion". Alanzo laments the loss of the object which he found closest to the projection of his ideals. Veda tends more to the "all that glitters is not gold" camp. Both very valid viewpoints...

It would never ocurr to me to think Veda and Alanso are the same person.
I've been reading their posts since both came to the net I believe. Knew
Alanzo for years on beliefnet.

The writing styles are way different. Alanzo is mostly having fun and strong on humour, with actually little antgonistic comment on scn. Though it appears from time to time. Veda is quite serious and monotoned on his agenda.

[Free to shine]

It would never ocurr to me to think Veda and Alanso are the same person.

I think it's a compliment to both Alanzo and Veda in a way. I think they are both terrific! And such an attempt to degrade them both is very interesting.

[Beef Terminal]

I think it's a compliment to both Alanzo and Veda in a way. I think they are both terrific! And such an attempt to degrade them both is very interesting.

Mis-interpretation (probably not your first). No attempt to degrade. Just spouting off. Ever done that before?

[Div6]

It would never ocurr to me to think Veda and Alanso are the same person.
I've been reading their posts since both came to the net I believe. Knew
Alanzo for years on beliefnet.

The writing styles are way different. Alanzo is mostly having fun and strong on humour, with actually little antgonistic comment on scn. Though it appears from time to time. Veda is quite serious and monotoned on his agenda.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare

Grade 0 - "Listen" I highly recommend trying it some time...

[The Oracle]

For someone who is out of work, dependent on relatives for a place to live, and apparently unable to provide a "safe space" for his own wife and child, you seem awfully concerned about a stranger's "O/Ws" and that stranger's need to "move on with his life."

After reading most of your posts, my questions are:

Why are you spending your time posting derogatory remarks about ex-scientologists on an internet message board instead of taking care of business and your family in real life? Are there no jobs or business opportunities, no hotels, motels, or apartments for rent in the area where you live?

Just because he's down on his luck for a moment doesn't mean he has forfeited a right to view and consider.

I know the biggest crime to many people is "being broke".

Just because he is today rearranging his life doesn't mean he's a weak spot to be prodded.

How 'bout a little kindness when your fellow man is down on his luck?

He still has a right to defend himself.

At LEAST can notice outpoints.

At LEAST he is demanding improvment.

He came here asking for help and got a good kick in the teeth.

What's up with that?

It's simple.

"Help me?"

Yes.

or No.

But you don't have to hear someone in distress and assume you can get a good kick in their teeth while they are down.

Haven't you ever heard, "Don't kick a man when he's down". ?

It's only common decency.

T.I.

[Free to shine]

Mis-interpretation (probably not your first). No attempt to degrade. Just spouting off. Ever done that before?

"Spouting off" is a disguise for targetting "Opinion Leaders". In my opinion. Old, old game. :D

[The Oracle]

I can assure you that Veda and Alanzo are not one and the same.

Alanzo is very flexible and very very funny at times. He is not really stuck in anything, he just seems to visit different points of view.

Alanzo has the ability to change his point of view in an instant.

He also grants others a platform and is not on a set mission here.

He also has good things to say to people.

He also lends encouragement.

He can be hysterically funny too.

He has a broad sense of humor.

Mainly, he is very approachable to communicate with.

So, whatever differences you have with him are easily resolved.

Although he may be challenging at times with ideas he does not go out of his way seeking prey to attack.

You don't get sudden lunges from him from left field either.

His humor is offbeat sometimes but he doesn't go for anyone's throat.

He is usually a gentleman with the ladies.

He also grows on you on the forum after you get used to his dimension.

He makes friends here with people on all sides of the fence.

He is approachable, not reproachful.

He does happen to be honest so if you invite him to comment about something by posting here you have invited his input.

I can assure you, Alanzo is Alanzo and nobody else.

Besides, I know who Veda is and Alanzo is not Veda.

Did your walk on this thread just become a little more comfortable?

T.I.
T.I.