Shunning and vilification alive and well in the Indie Field.

[Claire Swazey]

People on all sides of the equation pounce here. I myself have been pounced on a billion times by people were far greater fucktards than any Indie or FZer and I'm not shy about saying so.

If they obey the rules of conduct, it should be fine. If they don't, that's when I call it pouncing.

[GreyLensman]

The question of an LRH-ordered Sec Check on DM (to be administered by Prince and overseen by Mayo?) raises an interesting question. Is DM a suppressive person? If so, maybe the Indies should declare him? After all, if the Indies are fundamentalist (in the sense of founder infallibility) then they must follow the application of ethics, and declares, etc., right? (It's meant as an amusing question.)

The real question that comes to my mind is which of the following is closer to reality:

1. The church is in a current mess because of Miscavige's misleadership (that might be the Rathbun-Rinder position?). OR
2. The church is in trouble because it evolved into exactly what LRH admin policies and LRH-generated culture would predict and lead it to evolve into. (By culture I mean things like paranoia of enemies everywhere, unbending assumption of authority, certainty that one knows it all already -- which LRH ironically points out is the first barrier to learning.)

My own sense is that the church needs to go through a radical restructure, but it cannot as long as LRH is infallible. Until that infallibility falls to reality, and the good is used and the bad rejected, the church remains imprisoned within the bars of a dead man's mind.

2. which is inclusive of 1.

Miscavige is exactly what policy demands (both public and secret).
And he's an asshole in the Hubbardian tradition.

[Mike Laws]

I may be incorrect, but I think the sec check being referred to was a Hubbard-ordered sec check on DM, where Prince was the Sec Checker (not the Sec Checkee), and Mayo the C/S. Of course, it likely would have been disastrous for DM's immediate career ambitions towards High Priest of the cult. And what's implied is that due to the bond between DM and Broeker at the time, DM was able to weasel having the Sec Check being forwarded to Hubbard blocked, removed from the comm, destroyed or whatever. Anyway, the story is documented somewhere or other.

I am quite certain you are correct on this point.

[Smilla]

Non-Cof$ Scientology is still vilifying Aida Thomas, and what's more they are also using dead-agenting sites and YouTube against her.




"1. Aida Thomas the “squirrel” ( non-standard ) auditor

Here’s is a report from a fellow Freezone auditor Terril Park:


“Recently Aida went to Durham in the UK to audit two people, a mother and daughter. After she left I received 2 mails from the mother detailing her upsets with Aida.


Aida once told me that she starts all clients with ethics handlings. It looks to me that Aida has some big misunderstandings with ethics although she considers herself an expert. Aida also seems paranoid about doing interviews with people to then have them go to other auditors. This may be because of screwy ethics actions."


http://www.aida-thomas.com/





"About

This blog is dedicated to all the people Aida Thomas has slandered and “Fair Gamed” over the years:

1. Marty Rathbun
2. Mike Rinder
3. Ken Urquhart – ( Class IX auditor, worked with LRH directly )
4. Terrill Park
5. Catherine Zoltan
6. Richard Hernandez
7. Ralph Hilton
8. Pierre Ethier – ( Class XII auditor )
9. Catherine Ethier
10. Ivan Obolensky
11. Nancy Walcott
12. Myself"


http://truthaboutaidathomas.wordpress.com/about/

Same old Scientology, same old hate. Same old hypocrisy.

[Infinite]

Non-Cof$ Scientology is still vilifying Aida Thomas, and what's more they are also using dead-agenting sites and YouTube against her.

This is Steve Layton - you know, Timothy Higgs/Truthseeker - up to his usual virtual defecating again, isn't it?

[Smilla]

This is Steve Layton - you know, Timothy Higgs/Truthseeker - up to his usual virtual defecating again, isn't it?

I have no idea, but it's perfectly in keeping with the way she was cyberstalked and cyberbullied here.

[Claire Swazey]

Aida is also a non CofS Scn'ist.

[Infinite]

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No cat has 9 tails. One cat has one more tail than no cat. Therefore, one cat has 10 tails.

[Smilla]

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[Claire Swazey]

I wonder what the hell you are talking about. I mean, if you have a question about what I wrote, ask me.