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    Angry Ready to Blow My Top

    I've been out of communication with Scn for almost eight years now, and very glad of it. I haven't gone after them, they haven't gone after me, all is right with the world.

    Actually, all was right with the world. My former FSM gave my phone number to someone in Scn, and now it's everywhere. This was right after their glorious "new releases".

    Now these dipwads are calling and calling and calling, leaving messages for me. I have yet to answer the phone (caller ID, what a blessing), for when I do, I am going to pop a gasket and let whomever is on the other end hear exactly what I think of them and their "church".

    I was going to be all clever with a script that would work like this:

    Them: "Hi. This is Babs from L.A."
    Me: "Wow, I'm glad you called. Are you ready to get out?"
    Them: "Um, what?"
    Me: "Well, you called. I'm guessing you got the message that, when you're ready to get out, you call me, and I arrange an extraction."

    Then I thought a) that would be cruel, as I'm not in L.A. and in no position to arrange an extraction if, in fact, they wanted one; and b) I couldn't keep my cool and go through with it.

    Instead, I'm gonna let my hard-blooded French Canadian temper shine right out, and give them all sorts of holy hell (at least the sort of holy hell that operates between 300 and 3kHz, the range of a phone line ).

    Now, I hate it when I lose my temper, I consider it to be a weakness, not a strength. But these bastards don't listen to much else. They don't respect anyone, they don't care about anyone, and they are trained to manipulate you using any number of TRs and comm cycles. So any other sort of comm from me other than pure, unadulterated 1.5 anger, would be completely ineffective.

    This is the Christmas season, for Christ's sake! I don't need a bunch of rotten bastards trying to scam me again!

    [Before you reply, note that I won't make any sort of threats, beyond legal action (i.e. restraining order). I can show that much control ].

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    Speaking as a half (on my Mother's side) French Canadian myself, I can empathize.

    I do suggest maybe a third alternative.

    Politely but very firmly telling the person you are no longer in CofS and are not happy with it and that if they and others persist in calling you, you will feel it encumbent on yourself to give each person the full explanation as to why.
    I am truly into myself, yes. And I'm just as interested in other people. When I'm not thinking of one, I'm thinking of the other.

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    Just tell them that you are an SP and they will probably leave you alone.

    (Nice to see you back. )

    Regards

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    Clearly you missed this:

    But these bastards don't listen to much else. They don't respect anyone, they don't care about anyone, and they are trained to manipulate you using any number of TRs and comm cycles. So any other sort of comm from me other than pure, unadulterated 1.5 anger, would be completely ineffective.
    You'll have a very hard time convincing me that any sort of "polite but firm" comm with anyone in Scn will actually be productive.

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    You could well be right.

    I was thinking of someone who contacted me a few months ago from AOLA. I told her nicely I was expelled. There was this little gasp, and I said "Well, I guess you won't want to call anymore." and that was that.

    It went fairly well, not a bunch of acrimony.

    But not every situation is the same and you're the one getting these calls, not me.
    I am truly into myself, yes. And I'm just as interested in other people. When I'm not thinking of one, I'm thinking of the other.

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    Nice to see you back.
    Thanks, but I'm going to be a bit honest here. I don't really want to be back. I want my life back. I just want to be a regular guy, living his life, doing his job, having some fun. I don't want this. I didn't ask for this. I went to this 'church' for help, and got trapped in an endless cycle of cash, wins, invalidation, repairs, and more cash. Now, it fears, I can never just be rid of it.

    I was fortunate enough to flee relatively unscathed (especially as compared to OTs who lost fortunes, and long-time SO members who lost, well, everything). But it still sucked big-time. My time in Scn is like a big, painful scar. It hurts every time I breathe, but is hidden under my shirt so no one else knows it's there.

    Put simply, I don't want to be a member of the ex-Scn club anymore! Yes, lurking (and occasionally participating) in this site and other sites has been very helpful, but I'm not one of those who are dedicated to the Church's downfall (or reform or whatever). I just want to go back to being a middle-class schmoe with middle-class friends and a middle-class life. I want this all put behind me.

    In the last few months, I didn't even look at this website! But now, voila! Some lame-assed new release, and a former friend with no integrity whatsover, have f&cked everything up. Now I have to get back in the game, on one side or the other.

    Grrrrrr!

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    Actually, I like plan A. If they say they want to be extracted, just post the details here. The LA underground is good at that sort of thing, as is The Folder Liberation Army and the National Refund Board.

    Don't get mad, get organized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barky View Post
    Thanks, but I'm going to be a bit honest here. I don't really want to be back. I want my life back. I just want to be a regular guy, living his life, doing his job, having some fun. I don't want this. I didn't ask for this. I went to this 'church' for help, and got trapped in an endless cycle of cash, wins, invalidation, repairs, and more cash. Now, it fears, I can never just be rid of it.

    I was fortunate enough to flee relatively unscathed (especially as compared to OTs who lost fortunes, and long-time SO members who lost, well, everything). But it still sucked big-time. My time in Scn is like a big, painful scar. It hurts every time I breathe, but is hidden under my shirt so no one else knows it's there.

    Put simply, I don't want to be a member of the ex-Scn club anymore! Yes, lurking (and occasionally participating) in this site and other sites has been very helpful, but I'm not one of those who are dedicated to the Church's downfall (or reform or whatever). I just want to go back to being a middle-class schmoe with middle-class friends and a middle-class life. I want this all put behind me.

    In the last few months, I didn't even look at this website! But now, voila! Some lame-assed new release, and a former friend with no integrity whatsover, have f&cked everything up. Now I have to get back in the game, on one side or the other.

    Grrrrrr!
    This is the nearest I've ever got to a " severe reality adjustment".

    You are being effect.

    You can be cause.

    There are lots of options to stop there comm. Best is use the one most true to you.

    Ask if the Xenu story is true.

    Tell them straight out you are no longer interested in the subject.

    Tell them you will sue them if they persist in comm.

    Tell them you are doing FZ tech CBR style and say you wish to enlighten them. ( that didn't work for me)

    Getting of the mailing list is really hard. Getting declared a hassle.

    So do the things that get you dead filed. Swear at those who commuinicate and threaten law suits.

    No doubt many other strategies.

    You can get guidence here on specific letters to write and so on.

    But be cause! Tell them to fuck off in whatever way.

    You have no reason to be effect of them at all. They phone just,
    literally tell them to fuck off.


    With any luck you will be rewarded with a most prized possecion.

    Personal Goldenrod.

    It is a fact that most of the pantywaist, dilletante status seekers here
    do not have such an Icon.

    Not even I. Got dead filed. No more call in.

    You got to be brutal. Threaten lawsuit, swear.

    No panty waist dilletante can get off their lines,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Div6 View Post
    Actually, I like plan A. If they say they want to be extracted, just post the details here. The LA underground is good at that sort of thing, as is The Folder Liberation Army and the National Refund Board.

    Don't get mad, get organized.
    By Folder Liberation Army do you mean that there is a way to liberate my folders - or someone else's that is in the FZ? If so, please do-tell, by PM if wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barky View Post
    Thanks, but I'm going to be a bit honest here. I don't really want to be back. I want my life back. I just want to be a regular guy, living his life, doing his job, having some fun. I don't want this. I didn't ask for this. I went to this 'church' for help, and got trapped in an endless cycle of cash, wins, invalidation, repairs, and more cash. Now, it fears, I can never just be rid of it.

    I was fortunate enough to flee relatively unscathed (especially as compared to OTs who lost fortunes, and long-time SO members who lost, well, everything). But it still sucked big-time. My time in Scn is like a big, painful scar. It hurts every time I breathe, but is hidden under my shirt so no one else knows it's there.

    Put simply, I don't want to be a member of the ex-Scn club anymore! Yes, lurking (and occasionally participating) in this site and other sites has been very helpful, but I'm not one of those who are dedicated to the Church's downfall (or reform or whatever). I just want to go back to being a middle-class schmoe with middle-class friends and a middle-class life. I want this all put behind me.

    In the last few months, I didn't even look at this website! But now, voila! Some lame-assed new release, and a former friend with no integrity whatsover, have f&cked everything up. Now I have to get back in the game, on one side or the other.

    Grrrrrr!
    Barky, I totally understand what you mean. And when you say about the hidden hurt, it is very telling. It's that stuff that can't be avoided in the end I think. I tried for a decade and succeeded quite well, to put it all away in a box. The something sets it off again and it explodes. Talking here when it happens is a good thing and one day it really will be behind you.
    Love is stronger than mind control. Steve Hassan.


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