Scientology Study Tech In The Real World

[Mark A. Baker]

... It is mankind's only hope.

Rd00

Right!

And I have a Bridge to sell you.


Mark A. Baker

[Mark A. Baker]

It never occurred to me that CB's intention would have been something else.

You are correct. CB was created for the specific purpose of providing an open source for standard tech. It is a gross misconception to consider that it would have been something else.

The author has written his 'non-standard' ideas in other works.


Mark A Baker

[Veda]

You are correct. CB was created for the specific purpose of providing an open source for standard tech. It is a gross misconception to consider that it would have been something else.

The author has written his 'non-standard' ideas in other works.


Mark A Baker

"Anyone who is Clear but not OT III had better be pushed up to OT 3 first because otherwise he is at risk." 'HCOB' 23 Dec 1971.

From the author of the Clearbird materials:

"We respect Ron's tech for what it is, a complete system that has been tested and adjusted, re-tested and adjusted again, and now existed more or less in its final form for over 30 years." http://the-scientologist.com/clearbird.shtml

[Freeminds]

Are we 100% certain that the purpose of Scientology was to be educational?

Granted, 'finding the ruin' of a new Scientology victim often revealed that they hadn't read a whole lot since they left school... and if there's one thing a Scientology victim is going to be doing a lot of, it's buying books!

Still... was Scientology meant to educate, or did the pseudoreligion achieve some pseudoeducation as a byproduct of its fag-packet psychology? I mean, were poor old Ron's comments on education made out of a genuine desire to improve the educational system, or were they made in order to criticize that same educational system since it hadn't worked for him?

The US educational system was very patchy during the Scientology era, with some schools desperately under-funded and with out-of-date resources... but the kind of money a prominent Scientology victim is prompted to drop at an IAS event could sort out a whole school, not just meet the needs of their own kids. (And if Scientology in schools was about education, rather than indoctrination, the standard of education given within the Scientology machine would be better. The children of Scientology victims have far worse life chances than regular people on the outside.)

Really effective educational systems try to get people to think for themselves, but present-day Scientology has gone the other way. Parroting LRH is the form of study that gets you up the 'Bridge' nowadays. Think for yourself at your peril. So can that really be educational? I think not.

So Hubbard thought he understood education. He also thought he understood radiation. Photography. Jazz music. Submarine hunting. Venus.

Probably best we just let it die.

[Infinite]

Heh! I found this when rummaging about in the archives looking for stuff on Study Tech. Here, Alan Walter talks about "Word Clearing":

LONDON LAWYER V GLASGOW COP ( miss-match )

A London lawyer runs a stop sign and gets pulled over by a Glasgow copper.

He thinks that he is smarter than the cop because he is a lawyer from LONDON and is certain that he has a better education then any Jock cop. He decides to prove this to himself and have some fun at the Glasgow cops expense!!

Glasgow cop says, ' Licence and registration, please.'

London Lawyer says, 'What for?'

Glasgow cop says, 'Ye didnae come to a complete stop at the stop sign.'

London Lawyer says, 'I slowed down, and no one was coming.'

Glasgow cop says, 'Ye still didnae come to a complete stop. Licence and registration, please.'

London Lawyer says, 'What's the difference?'

Glasgow cop says, 'The difference is, ye huvte to come to complete stop, that's the law, Licence and registration, please!'

London Lawyer says, 'If you can show me the legal difference between slow down and stop, I'll give you my licence and registration;and you give me the ticket. If not, you let me go and don't give me the ticket.'

Glasgow cop says, 'Sounds fair. Exit your vehicle, sir.'

The London Lawyer exits his vehicle.

The Glasgow cop takes out his baton and starts beating the f*ck out of the lawyer and says,

'Dae ye want me to stop, or just slow doon?'

[loose cannon]

"Anyone who is Clear but not OT III had better be pushed up to OT 3 first because otherwise he is at risk." 'HCOB' 23 Dec 1971.

From the author of the Clearbird materials:

" We respect Ron's tech for what it is, a complete system that has been tested and adjusted, re-tested and adjusted again, and now existed more or less in its final form for over 30 years." http://the-scientologist.com/clearbird.shtml

" There is new research taking place in this field. We support that. The technology presented here is a workable technology, not necessarily perfect. This research is done by true professionals that have practiced the existing technology for years and years. Clearbird's manuals do not contain any of this research as it is outside the scope of a basic textbook. The basics of the technology are sound and solid and that is what a student has to learn first; it's a long and hard study all by itself. We have thus concentrated on the basic technology and have taken great care that no alterations of the technology itself has been accidentally introduced."

-- How Technology Gets Altered

"We have compared his works to other authors, such as L. Kin, Geoffrey Filbert, and the German philosopher A. Nordenholz (who wrote the first book and the first axioms of the subject - in 1934). We have written a completely new and comprehensive textbook based on these and other authors' works on the subject of standard technology."

-- Welcome to 'Clearbird'

[Gottabrain]

In Scio study Tech, this actually would be a skipped gradient.

Not necessarily. Just skipped. Chapters didn't always build on one another, but once a class started talking about something that hadn't been studied, the student would lose interest. Not misunderstood, more like oblivious.

[RogerB]

Not necessarily. Just skipped. Chapters didn't always build on one another, but once a class started talking about something that hadn't been studied, the student would lose interest. Not misunderstood, more like oblivious.

Correct . . . there is a BIG difference between a misunderstood and a non-understood as in non-comprehension.

And for those who have them identified . . . and many do . . . now is your opportunity to look at these prefixes in a good dictionary

And further to the point, folks know when they do not understand something or when they experience a non-comprehension . . . . but I can tell you it is a very frequent occurrence to have folks with misunderstoods and to be totally unaware and unknowing of it.

R

[Dulloldfart]

Correct . . . there is a BIG difference between a misunderstood and a non-understood as in non-comprehension.

In regular English maybe, but not in Hubbardingo. The HCOB that gives the different kinds of m/u, The Misunderstood Word Defined, I believe, includes "not understood" as one of the categories.

Paul

[Mark A. Baker]

Correct . . . there is a BIG difference between a misunderstood and a non-understood as in non-comprehension. ...

In one sense yes, in another not so much.

Both leave the individual failing to understand the concept in question. In one instance the person is apt to realize he doesn't comprehend. In the other instance, the person is inclined to believe, erroneously, that he does. Neither is ideal, but the latter condition is the worse.


Mark A. Baker