I never achieved The State of Clear or OT.
I did become a Class V Auditor.
Also, I was declared an SP.
However, I have some friend/s who are Indies
and every time we touch the subject of my disaffection
with the whole thing, sooner or later, I hear "but people
run into the same incidents on the whole track!" supposedly
with no "indoctrination" from Hubbard.
My question is - do they really?
I think it's a good topic.