Whole Track Question.

[Stat]

I never achieved The State of Clear or OT.
I did become a Class V Auditor.
Also, I was declared an SP.

However, I have some friend/s who are Indies
and every time we touch the subject of my disaffection
with the whole thing, sooner or later, I hear "but people
run into the same incidents on the whole track!" supposedly
with no "indoctrination" from Hubbard.

My question is - do they really?

I think it's a good topic.

Please, share/contribute/discuss.

[Thrak]

Define "really". But I seriously doubt your friends have a clue what happened on "the track".

[Stat]

I don't know. Yet I wonder.

(And no, I don't endorse Freezone, Indies or OSA.)

Just thinking out-loud.

[Dulloldfart]

I never achieved The State of Clear or OT.
I did become a Class V Auditor.
Also, I was declared an SP.

However, I have some friend/s who are Indies
and every time we touch the subject of my disaffection
with the whole thing, sooner or later, I hear "but people
run into the same incidents on the whole track!" supposedly
with no "indoctrination" from Hubbard.

My question is - do they really?

I think it's a good topic.

Please, share/contribute/discuss.

When people make such statements on ESMB they can be grilled — in detail — as to what they saw and when, etc. And this can be considered along with Hubbard suggestibility.

For example, someone can say they ran Incident 2 in 1960, before Hubbard issued OT3. Closer investigation might show they ran something that bore some vague resemblance to some space opera crap from History of Man or a sci-fi story and not really what Hubbard described as Incident 2 at all.

But when it occurs in casual face-to-face conversation, where one does not wish to offend one's friend, it is harder to get down to the nitty-gritty.

Paul

[Stat]

When people make such statements on ESMB they can be grilled — in detail — as to what they saw and when, etc. And this can be considered along with Hubbard suggestibility.

For example, someone can say they ran Incident 2 in 1960, before Hubbard issued OT3. Closer investigation might show they ran something that bore some vague resemblance to some space opera crap from History of Man or a sci-fi story and not really what Hubbard described as Incident 2 at all.

But when it occurs in casual face-to-face conversation, where one does not wish to offend one's friend, it is harder to get down to the nitty-gritty.

Paul

Thank you, Paul.
I appreciate your input.
I really want to sort it out.

[scooter]

I did quite a bit of auditing and I never saw anyone run an incident that they wouldn't have already been somehow familiar with.

It may have been "whole-track" or concentration camp or Inc I or II, but it was all stuff they'd heard about/read somewhere.

I can think of a few exceptions, but they were all "recent" (i.e. last few hundred years) stuff that may or may not have been suggested to them by something else.

[Stat]

Scooter, you OT VII, right?

[Div6]

Ok....here goes nothing.

When running "whole track", there are several "classifications" for types of incidents run. And there is further classification as to where it falls on the track, as in what era of track (ie: thetan plus body plus GE era of track, thetan vs body track, thetan vs thetan track, before physical universe track, etc).

In the types of incidents, generally they fall under GPM's and Implant GPM's.
GPM's are mot the same, person to person, as they are based upon your own goals. Implant GPM's (defined as an electronic means of overwhelming a being) CAN appear to follow the same patterns being to being. There are quite a few of these Implant GPM series outlined in the Tech Vols, and OT II of course (as well as the original Clearing Course materials) all deal with these types of incidents.


ymmv

[Stat]

Div6, wut?

[Div6]

Div6, wut?

Did you ever run "whole track" in your auditing experience?