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    Quote Originally Posted by degraded being View Post
    I was irritated by the question.
    This is what I channelled, but I don't know if it comes from me-back-then, me-now, or me-sometime-in the future.

    I would not have listened to what my now self said because it would have been impossible for my now self to say it, for the obvious reason that the now self did not exist. However, if it was possible for the now self to give advice to the then self it would have been listened to by the back-then-self and so the advice would not be needed now, so the now self would not need to give it.
    yup DB that time paradox is a delicious mind bender aint it


    I think of it as the laughing that you do when you smack your funny bone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elronius of Marcabia View Post
    yup DB that time paradox is a delicious mind bender aint it


    I think of it as the laughing that you do when you smack your funny bone
    I am time travelling like a ping pong ball right now, processsing things.
    Logic vs the other side of the brain functions.
    I think the ping pong game ended in a tie.
    The funny bone was the referee and helped both ping pong players to win.
    Thanks.

    Mired in Metaphors.
    I was in a Space Alien Cult called Scientology. Scientology: the prison of belief.

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    I kind of like the idea posed by this question. The me now knows so much more than I did when I first began my journey in Scientology.

    I would begin by pointing out to myself in those early days that L Ron Hubbard was a fraud. He didn't finish college and in fact had very bad grades. He wasn't a Doctor or a Physicist or a Navy war hero. I would sit down with my then self for a long conversation over lunch. My treat.

    I would tell my then self who I was and what I had experienced in the decades that I was a Scientologist. I would find out what questions or concerns I had at the time and handle each and every one of them. I would talk about all the broken promises, the lack of anyone ever gaining any Oat Tee abilities, the abortions that were forced on countless Sea Org women, the lack of pay and the long hours, L Ron Hubbard amassing great amounts of money for his personal use at the expense of the staff members who had nothing, the broken families, the multitude of SP declares of people who were not SP, and I would emphasize the importance of a college education. I would even pay all of the necessary college tuition and living expenses so that the then me could get a degree.

    Finally I would make arrangements to meet with myself weekly at first to discuss how things were going and offer encouragement. Once I saw that things were stable and that I was doing well I would arrange to meet monthly to discuss things and of course I would give myself my phone number so that I could call at anytime if I needed to.

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    ...


    I have thought about this question both in the past, present and future. This is the best answer I can give. . .


    PRESENT ME
    I need to talk to you.

    PAST ME
    Really? Who are you?

    PRESENT ME
    Well first I need to give you an r-factor--
    I am from the future!

    PAST ME
    LOL. No really, what did you want?
    Maybe you can just put it in writing to me,
    since I don't have much time because
    I'm really busy clearing
    the planet in present time.

    PRESENT ME
    Okay, okay--okay. I see we are going
    to have to do this a different way.
    Hey! You are one of the most elite
    beings on this planet that are
    qualified to get the very special
    VIP Briefing.

    PAST ME
    Oh? What is it?

    PRESENT ME
    Okay! I would like to indicate--
    I am from the future!

    PAST ME
    LOLOL
    You already said that.
    Listen, whatever it is you have
    stuck attention on, you should just
    put it on the right lines so you
    are not DevTing productive terminals.

    PRESENT ME
    I see. Hmmmm..this is more complicated
    than I thought it was going to be.
    Wait! Wait! Wait, don't go yet!
    I am doing Non-Existence and
    I need to do Ron's formula standardly
    and I therefore need you to help
    get in Ron's tech by listening
    to me.

    PAST ME
    Okay, go ahead.

    PRESENT ME
    Hello!

    PAST ME
    Hello!

    PRESENT ME
    That completes the
    first part of the NE formula
    where I find a com line!

    PAST ME
    Cool.

    PRESENT ME
    Now I am going to make myself known.

    PAST ME
    Thank you for that.

    PRESENT ME
    I am from the future!

    PAST ME
    LOL
    STFU!
    You are really starting to overrun
    me on that other-practicey indication.
    It doesn't indicate. I gotta go.

    PRESENT ME
    WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!!!
    Give me just one more moment, okay?
    I'm almost done with my NonE.
    I need to ask you "What is needed and wanted?"

    PAST ME
    What I need and want is for you to lose that
    "I am from the future" sci fi bullshit and
    just say whatever it is you wanted to say to me.

    PRESENT ME
    Okay. Well, the truth is. . .
    I am here to tell you that in the future
    you are going to discover that Ron Hubbard
    was a chronic and incorrigible liar. He was also
    a criminal committing innumerable human rights
    atrocities under the guise of "Fair Game" and
    orchestrating these felonious and sociopathic
    revenge scenarios against innocent people.
    On top of that, nobody ever attained
    the state of OT, including Ron, his wife,
    his kids, his staff or his PCs.

    PRESENT ME
    That's it? That's what you wanted to tell me?

    PRESENT ME
    There's more. Also in the future you are going
    to find out that from OT III to OT VIII all you
    are going to be doing is hunting for dead space
    aliens in your universe and it's going to cost
    hundreds of thousands of dollars and not
    only will it not make you OT, it will start to
    really mess up your mind--not to mention
    literally devastate your personal life. In
    the future when you figure all this out
    you are going to blow and really start
    enjoying life and freedom and regret
    all the years and dollars you got
    defrauded out of.

    PAST ME
    You done?

    PRESENT ME
    Well, that's just the tip of the iceberg,
    you'll eventually find out that Scientology
    is far worse than all that. And when you
    find out the truth, if you tell anyone,
    Scientology management
    will run Fair Game on you and
    destroy your life, finances and family.
    And, oh yeah, they are going to
    Declare & Disconnect you from all
    Scientology family, friends and business associates.
    So, maybe you should start planning for that
    by being in a line of work or business that
    doesn't depend on Scientologists for your income.

    PAST ME
    Finished?

    PRESENT ME
    Well, um, I guess that's enough data for right now, I
    don't want to go out gradient right away.

    PAST ME
    Well, I appreciate you taking the time to
    give me your viewpoint. And I want to
    thank you for r-factoring me what is
    real to you. But, honestly, you are just
    being a merchant of chaos and spreading
    entheta and black pr on Scientology.
    Your concept is so--OUT-REALITY!

    PRESENT ME
    I know, it is out-reality. Sorry if
    I ARC broke you. Let's plan to meet
    up in about twenty years so we can talk again, my friend.


    PAST ME
    Hey, before you go, what was all that
    "I'm from the future" bullshit?
    What's up with that?
    Who are you really?

    PRESENT ME
    I'm just a being whose case is really messed up--
    that only standard tech can handle.

    PAST ME
    Right, that's what I thought.










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    I never felt as free as when I freed myself from "Total Freedom".

    For offended Scientologists reading this blasphemy about L. Ron Hubbard---my apologies for talking about real life without lying to you, like Scientology, with goo-goo theta-talk. I know you don't have a floating needle right now. You're not supposed to.

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    Past me: From the future?
    Present me: Yeah that's right.
    Past me: Before, during, or after the body thetans?
    I was in a Space Alien Cult called Scientology. Scientology: the prison of belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaHoax! View Post
    ...


    I have thought about this question both in the past, present and future. This is the best answer I can give. . .


    PRESENT ME
    I need to talk to you.

    PAST ME
    Really? Who are you?

    PRESENT ME
    Well first I need to give you an r-factor--
    I am from the future!

    PAST ME
    LOL. No really, what did you want?
    Maybe you can just put it in writing to me,
    since I don't have much time because
    I'm really busy clearing
    the planet in present time.

    PRESENT ME
    Okay, okay--okay. I see we are going
    to have to do this a different way.
    Hey! You are one of the most elite
    beings on this planet that are
    qualified to get the very special
    VIP Briefing.

    PAST ME
    Oh? What is it?

    PRESENT ME
    Okay! I would like to indicate--
    I am from the future!

    PAST ME
    LOLOL
    You already said that.
    Listen, whatever it is you have
    stuck attention on, you should just
    put it on the right lines so you
    are not DevTing productive terminals.

    PRESENT ME
    I see. Hmmmm..this is more complicated
    than I thought it was going to be.
    Wait! Wait! Wait, don't go yet!
    I am doing Non-Existence and
    I need to do Ron's formula standardly
    and I therefore need you to help
    get in Ron's tech by listening
    to me.

    PAST ME
    Okay, go ahead.

    PRESENT ME
    Hello!

    PAST ME
    Hello!

    PRESENT ME
    That completes the
    first part of the NE formula
    where I find a com line!

    PAST ME
    Cool.

    PRESENT ME
    Now I am going to make myself known.

    PAST ME
    Thank you for that.

    PRESENT ME
    I am from the future!

    PAST ME
    LOL
    STFU!
    You are really starting to overrun
    me on that other-practicey indication.
    It doesn't indicate. I gotta go.

    PRESENT ME
    WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!!!
    Give me just one more moment, okay?
    I'm almost done with my NonE.
    I need to ask you "What is needed and wanted?"

    PAST ME
    What I need and want is for you to lose that
    "I am from the future" sci fi bullshit and
    just say whatever it is you wanted to say to me.

    PRESENT ME
    Okay. Well, the truth is. . .
    I am here to tell you that in the future
    you are going to discover that Ron Hubbard
    was a chronic and incorrigible liar. He was also
    a criminal committing innumerable human rights
    atrocities under the guise of "Fair Game" and
    orchestrating these felonious and sociopathic
    revenge scenarios against innocent people.
    On top of that, nobody ever attained
    the state of OT, including Ron, his wife,
    his kids, his staff or his PCs.

    PRESENT ME
    That's it? That's what you wanted to tell me?

    PRESENT ME
    There's more. Also in the future you are going
    to find out that from OT III to OT VIII all you
    are going to be doing is hunting for dead space
    aliens in your universe and it's going to cost
    hundreds of thousands of dollars and not
    only will it not make you OT, it will start to
    really mess up your mind--not to mention
    literally devastate your personal life. In
    the future when you figure all this out
    you are going to blow and really start
    enjoying life and freedom and regret
    all the years and dollars you got
    defrauded out of.

    PAST ME
    You done?

    PRESENT ME
    Well, that's just the tip of the iceberg,
    you'll eventually find out that Scientology
    is far worse than all that. And when you
    find out the truth, if you tell anyone,
    Scientology management
    will run Fair Game on you and
    destroy your life, finances and family.
    And, oh yeah, they are going to
    Declare & Disconnect you from all
    Scientology family, friends and business associates.
    So, maybe you should start planning for that
    by being in a line of work or business that
    doesn't depend on Scientologists for your income.

    PAST ME
    Finished?

    PRESENT ME
    Well, um, I guess that's enough data for right now, I
    don't want to go out gradient right away.

    PAST ME
    Well, I appreciate you taking the time to
    give me your viewpoint. And I want to
    thank you for r-factoring me what is
    real to you. But, honestly, you are just
    being a merchant of chaos and spreading
    entheta and black pr on Scientology.
    Your concept is so--OUT-REALITY!

    PRESENT ME
    I know, it is out-reality. Sorry if
    I ARC broke you. Let's plan to meet
    up in about twenty years so we can talk again, my friend.


    PAST ME
    Hey, before you go, what was all that
    "I'm from the future" bullshit?
    What's up with that?
    Who are you really?

    PRESENT ME
    I'm just a being whose case is really messed up--
    that only standard tech can handle.

    PAST ME
    Right, that's what I thought.










    just curious ? why did you never tell you it was you ?

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    Cautious as one crossing thin ice . . .
    (LaoTze-TaoDeJing, Chapter 15. 2nd verse . . . )

    For Ray - I have not forgotten you, my friend
    Or you Scott, this is for you too. I hope you are out.
    Kay is out . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker5 View Post



    If we can answer this question for ourselves - on what would have worked to say to our younger selves, we might come up with some good ways to speak to other people that are still in now.

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