What is the Difference Between Delusion and Positive Thinking?

[AngeloV]

Positive thinking is a good thing up to a point. But one should always have a tight grip on reality lest one have false expectations:

[Demented LRH]

I was thinking last night,

What is the difference between delusion and positive thinking?

How does a person end up crossing up their imagination with reality where he/she can't tell the two apart anymore?

I do not know how that happens, but I know who are the people who cross that line -- they are the retards; Hubbard was one of them.

[Royal Prince Xenu]

Having derided positive thinking in my earlier post, let me now take the opposite viewpoint:

Let us assume that well-done positive thinking CAN effect change in the world around you. If so, why doesn't it work more consistently?

I think the reason is that other people have thoughts counter to yours. A good example of this is playing the lottery -- while you can postulate that the numbers you've picked will win, others are postulating for their own numbers. I remember in the movie Bruce Almighty, people were praying to win the lottery. Their wishes were granted -- all of them -- by having their picks all changed to the same number, which then won. But the payout had to be split millions of ways, meaning no one even got the price of lunch out of it.

A more doable example would be competing for a job opening. If you put enough intention into it, your intention just might overpower the intention of the other candidates, so you get the job.

Which gets us into the area of OT phenomena. Assuming if you will that such things ARE possible, there are so many people out who don't believe in it that OT abilities can become blocked. (And there's a possibility that discarnate spirits out there are also putting out a "you can't do that" intention.)

Overpowering the physical universe is particularly difficult, as just about everyone considers it persistant. Even those who believe that theta is senior to MEST have hidden agreements of the physical universe's immutability.

There are different degrees of reality. The MEST universe is SOLID (start banging your fist on the table) because so MANY people agree it is. There are lesser degrees of reality, too. You may not believe in Klingons but if you ever go to a Star Trek convention, you'll be surrounded by them, speaking their own language. Yes, you can say that's just a fantasy but it's just a different degree of agreement.

Helena

I like your comparison re applying for employment. I have been a computer geek since I first saw a typewriter, when even the local department store had no cash registers: The salesman put your money and the docket into a little shuttle that zoomed off along a wire to the accounts cubicle, and then the little shuttle zoomed back and clicked into place with your change.

So I pretty much got to see the early evolution of computers from occupying the central heating core of the building, down to occupying just one floor, and then down to some rooms, and finally office-based machines that we mostly would laugh at today. Of course, with the Internet explosion there are "server farms" that again occupy entire buildings.

My personal experience was to become a typist, word processor operator, and ultimately typographer. My most negative experiences in applying for employment would be the rejection because I was "over-qualified". Although, there were two Temp agencies that loved me. Whenever they had a client who used something that wasn't Apple or Microsoft, they would send me, which further enhanced my "over-qualification". I also encountered other negatives because, being male, I was often rejected on the very first phone call. When you're ringing first thing on the Monday morning at 9.01am and get told "that position has already been filled," it doesn't take long to catch on. While the experiences may be negative, I was never negative about my own ability. I would not disappoint myself by applying for jobs I could never do and being sent on a Temp assignment for one or two days that suddenly got extended to weeks and in one case months, was very rewarding. I also gained the delight (positive) of seeing all those wonderful legacy systems like Wang, Burroughs, HP terminals etc..

When it comes to talking about whether it's agreement or not that MEST is "solid", looking deeper into Quantum Mechanics you will discover that solidity is only a perception. The reason a body cannot pass through a wall is because of the interaction of the minute atomic charges, and if they are manipulated in the right way (which will eventually happen), then passing through walls and even teleportation will become a possibility. If you compare atomic structures to galaxies, that teleportation process is happening right now, as Andromeda slowly (on our time scale) slices its delicate path through the Milky Way.