Marty toasted on both sides on KHOW radio yesterday

[Rene Descartes]

Yeah, exactly!

And if Hubbard had instead handwritten the OT III synopsis about alien mice that were captured and transported to Teegeack aboard intergalactic Fedex trucks afixed with rocket boosters--then Scientologists would have signed bonds about never revealing the secret of the universe.

Furthermore, if Hubbard's scripture provided a list to asses to find out what beingness the BM (BodyMice) were trapped in--and if that assessment consisted of various Disney and comic book characters like...

Mickey Mouse
Minnie Mouse
Super Mouse
Tuffy Mouse
Danger Mouse
Pinky Mouse
Roquefort Mouse
Jerry Mouse
Speedy Gonzales Mouse
Mighty Mouse

Then OT's would spend hundreds of thousands of dollars doing just that in multiple sessions every day, for a decade or more in order to salvage this sector by finding and blowing dead alien mice.

And they would give huge wins and success stories.

And Advance! magazine would post major OT phenomena from OT III completions who handled their BodyMice.

And there would be people being declared, harassed, terrorized and fair gamed with head cameras if they revealed the secrets of the BodyMice.

And there would still be an Indie Mouse Movement with people bragging about their integrity on a blogsite called Mousing Up A Little Higher.

Hey, did I mention recently that Scientologists are completely overwhelmed and deluded?

HelluvaHoax,

You have brought claritry to my thoughts.

I now know that the idea of 13 trillion people gang raped by perverts who were cellularly engineered in a grotesque manner by cellologists under the influence of intergalactic Psychiatrists is too far fetched.

Thank you for bringing me back to reality.

Rd00

[TG1]

“Were You a ‘Loyal Officer’ Too?

“In Las Palmas Hubbard used to talk quite openly about his [OT3] ‘research’. He used to say that the main street in Gran Canaria was exactly like it was 75 million years ago, exact in every detail. He got some really funny looks from several members of the crew. I don’t think there was more than a couple of members who bought into the story. In order to satisfy the rest of us he added a line about Loyal Officers. This was a clever move as it allowed us to simply say that we never got the implant as we were away at the time.”

The above is quoted (with emphasis added by me) from pp. 114-115 of Dulloldfart’s compilation Dart Smohen: The Real Story of Dart Smohen’s ESMB postings (found at http://www.paulsrabbit.com/DartSmohe...y_20081216.pdf).

[HelluvaHoax!]

...


I paused just now to remember what this thread is about and quickly recalled the "I don't believe anything" lunacy of Rathbun when questioned about the BT-infested OT levels.

Again, that videotape of Marty/Mike fishing popped back into my mind where Marty sort of unexpectedly "flips" from being a good-ole-boy-fisherman to spewing his energized realization that COB is stuck in a particular wholetrack implant. It was an uncomfortable moment, even for Mike Rinder, who tried to ease the cringe by quickly saying "Whatever..." But the moment lingered on as testimony that Rathbun was fully caught up in Hubbard's unnervingly dorky cosmology.

In watching Rathbun so easily "go in session" and begin running his "itsa" to cog and VGI's--exactly as if he was in a session--the word LIAR did not seem to fit as well as it normally does when I hear a Scientologist launch into reciting scriptural revelations. Instead, a different word came to mind...

FILTERING.

As in, wearing sunglasses to filter out harsh rays of the sun.

It occurred to me that Marty Rathbun--or any other Scientologist for that matter--is indoctrinated by filters. At first Hubbard gives new Scientologists a pair of sunglasses that is barely tinted (or shall we say tainted) with Hubbard's view of the world. It colors the new Scientologists way of seeing the world, at first in a subtle and unimportant way. It might only have a shading index of 0.001 where the Scientologist sees the world as a place where the mind is viewed (Dianetics) as something that can cause unwanted physical sensations, emotions or content that holds an individual back from success and happiness.

Each day the Scientologist reports in, they are fitted with the next, almost indiscernibly darker shade of sunglasses. Another part of life is "filtered" out, rendering one more color to register as "neutral". Bright green becomes forest green becomes tea green....

Over time, the vibrancy of color is reduced and neutralized and the Scientologist's ideas about life very subtly evolve into a muted pattern of black and white.

Normal thinking gets filtered out and Hubbard "fills the vacuum" with his own thoughts.

A perfectly normal individual, over time, begins to talk about wholetrack implants as if it was as normal as shaking hands to greet someone.

And one day, that Scientologist opens their mouth and the most alarmingly bizarre things begin to pour out of it such as "Who's Xenu? You must be confusing Ron's sci-fi writing with Scientology" and "I don't believe anything!" and "A person who doesn't believe in Christ can still be a Christian."

This method of indoctrination-by-gradual-erosion-of-normal-perception is another way of understanding the "hypnotic state" of mind that so many Scientologists arrive at. It's not so much "hypnotizing" a person as it is to give them a cool pair of sunglasses to wear that actually makes life less glary and harsh.

The proverbial rise-colored glasses. But the twist here is that Scientology doesn't just hand over a pair of obviously tinted shades, they do it very subtly over time. The process is not dissimilar to the eye's pupils dilating and adjusting to bright lights. The size of the pupil "stops down" until it is small and only lets a limited quantity of light through.

People who have been deprived of light over long periods of time actually are painfully blinded if they simply walk outdoors during daylight. Their system cannot tolerate even small intensities of light and they instinctively close & cover their eyes when "attacked" by normal illumination. So it is that Scientologists cover their eyes and perceive themselves as being "attacked" when a non-Scientologists tries to shed some light on the truth about Hubbard and Scientology.

Perhaps it is this knee-jerk reaction to shield all light that makes Scientologists answer questions about Xenu in such a "shady" way.

[Panda Termint]

I think you are right.

[Veda]

...

I paused just now to remember what this thread is about and quickly recalled the "I don't believe anything" lunacy of Rathbun when questioned about the BT-infested OT levels.

-sniip-

From Marty Rathbun's blog, directed at Independent Scientologists:

"...there are OSA operatives throughout the Anonymous network, ESMB site, the Freezone and Independents running backstabbing, covert propaganda campaigns while we are 'tied up' under siege. Just look for the 1.1s using the safe Independent Scientology space we are creating to promote such practices as no-training-needed to get onto OT levels, 'OT I and OT II are of little importance': especially coming from 'Class VIIIs', 'Class VIs' and folks claiming to be 'trained by Ron.' They may as well be saying 'Scientology is a fraud, because after all I studied it all, and violently disagree with the Bridge created by Ron.'..."

[Rene Descartes]

My 2 cents....on a Sat afternoon (and my new hair )


Love to you ALL

Tory/Magoo

Hey there Magoo.

Good on the hair!

Just wanted to let you know we are all fine over here. No fighting going on.

We are all in love with each other.

And enjoying our freedom.

Rd00

[Lone Star]

From Marty Rathbun's blog, directed at Independent Scientologists:

"...there are OSA operatives throughout the Anonymous network, ESMB site, the Freezone and Independents running backstabbing, covert propaganda campaigns while we are 'tied up' under siege. Just look for the 1.1s using the safe Independent Scientology space we are creating to promote such practices as no-training-needed to get ontoOT levels, 'OT I and OT II are of little importance': especially coming from 'Class VIIIs', 'Class VIs' and folks claiming to be 'trained by Ron.' They may as well be saying 'Scientology is a fraud, because after all I studied it all, and violently disagree with the Bridge created by Ron.'..."

Hi Marty! Glad you are reading ESMB! Please join so you can weigh in on our ongoing Body Thetan vs. Space Alien debate. We were fascinated by your radio interview last week. It inspired a long thread of debate, arguments, and a few jokes here and there. Keep giving us material!

We are actively searching out the OSAbots among us and will be fair gaming them promptly. We want to make ESMB safe for Martyworld!


P.S. You're not going to Declare Anonymous, the Freezone, or ESMB to be Suppressive are you? Nah....surely not. You are the kindler, gentler guy. I apologize for even asking.

[Lone Star]

...


I paused just now to remember what this thread is about and quickly recalled the "I don't believe anything" lunacy of Rathbun when questioned about the BT-infested OT levels.

Again, that videotape of Marty/Mike fishing popped back into my mind where Marty sort of unexpectedly "flips" from being a good-ole-boy-fisherman to spewing his energized realization that COB is stuck in a particular wholetrack implant. It was an uncomfortable moment, even for Mike Rinder, who tried to ease the cringe by quickly saying "Whatever..." But the moment lingered on as testimony that Rathbun was fully caught up in Hubbard's unnervingly dorky cosmology.

In watching Rathbun so easily "go in session" and begin running his "itsa" to cog and VGI's--exactly as if he was in a session--the word LIAR did not seem to fit as well as it normally does when I hear a Scientologist launch into reciting scriptural revelations. Instead, a different word came to mind...

FILTERING.

As in, wearing sunglasses to filter out harsh rays of the sun.

It occurred to me that Marty Rathbun--or any other Scientologist for that matter--is indoctrinated by filters. At first Hubbard gives new Scientologists a pair of sunglasses that is barely tinted (or shall we say tainted) with Hubbard's view of the world. It colors the new Scientologists way of seeing the world, at first in a subtle and unimportant way. It might only have a shading index of 0.001 where the Scientologist sees the world as a place where the mind is viewed (Dianetics) as something that can cause unwanted physical sensations, emotions or content that holds an individual back from success and happiness.

Each day the Scientologist reports in, they are fitted with the next, almost indiscernibly darker shade of sunglasses. Another part of life is "filtered" out, rendering one more color to register as "neutral". Bright green becomes forest green becomes tea green....

Over time, the vibrancy of color is reduced and neutralized and the Scientologist's ideas about life very subtly evolve into a muted pattern of black and white.

Normal thinking gets filtered out and Hubbard "fills the vacuum" with his own thoughts.

A perfectly normal individual, over time, begins to talk about wholetrack implants as if it was as normal as shaking hands to greet someone.

And one day, that Scientologist opens their mouth and the most alarmingly bizarre things begin to pour out of it such as "Who's Xenu? You must be confusing Ron's sci-fi writing with Scientology" and "I don't believe anything!" and "A person who doesn't believe in Christ can still be a Christian."

This method of indoctrination-by-gradual-erosion-of-normal-perception is another way of understanding the "hypnotic state" of mind that so many Scientologists arrive at. It's not so much "hypnotizing" a person as it is to give them a cool pair of sunglasses to wear that actually makes life less glary and harsh.

The proverbial rise-colored glasses. But the twist here is that Scientology doesn't just hand over a pair of obviously tinted shades, they do it very subtly over time. The process is not dissimilar to the eye's pupils dilating and adjusting to bright lights. The size of the pupil "stops down" until it is small and only lets a limited quantity of light through.

People who have been deprived of light over long periods of time actually are painfully blinded if they simply walk outdoors during daylight. Their system cannot tolerate even small intensities of light and they instinctively close & cover their eyes when "attacked" by normal illumination. So it is that Scientologists cover their eyes and perceive themselves as being "attacked" when a non-Scientologists tries to shed some light on the truth about Hubbard and Scientology.

Perhaps it is this knee-jerk reaction to shield all light that makes Scientologists answer questions about Xenu in such a "shady" way.

Thanks for this Helluva. This is just what I needed today! This and Veda's post of what Marty wrote on his site. Priceless....just priceless!

[uniquemand]

From Marty Rathbun's blog, directed at Independent Scientologists:

"...there are OSA operatives throughout the Anonymous network, ESMB site, the Freezone and Independents running backstabbing, covert propaganda campaigns while we are 'tied up' under siege. Just look for the 1.1s using the safe Independent Scientology space we are creating to promote such practices as no-training-needed to get onto OT levels, 'OT I and OT II are of little importance': especially coming from 'Class VIIIs', 'Class VIs' and folks claiming to be 'trained by Ron.' They may as well be saying 'Scientology is a fraud, because after all I studied it all, and violently disagree with the Bridge created by Ron.'..."

LOL. Almost sounds like it was directed at me. I've been making this exact comment here and on various blogs. OT levels are crap, and I've heard Class VIIIs say it. AUDIT THE MOTHERFUCKER IN FRONT OF YOU, NOT SOME OTHER MOTHERFUCKER. Thanks.

[Ladybird]

From Marty Rathbun's blog, directed at Independent Scientologists:

"...there are OSA operatives throughout the Anonymous network, ESMB site, the Freezone and Independents running backstabbing, covert propaganda campaigns while we are 'tied up' under siege. Just look for the 1.1s using the safe Independent Scientology space we are creating to promote such practices as no-training-needed to get onto OT levels, 'OT I and OT II are of little importance': especially coming from 'Class VIIIs', 'Class VIs' and folks claiming to be 'trained by Ron.' They may as well be saying 'Scientology is a fraud, because after all I studied it all, and violently disagree with the Bridge created by Ron.'..."

I am pretty sure the only tech training Marty Rathbun ever got was RDD (Read it Drill it Do it) on the RPF, and maybe some Gang Bang security checking when he was David Miscaviges right hand thug.

What IS Marty's "case level"? What is his training level? How is he drawing OSA away from everybody else? Oh...I guess a few idiots in paddle boats are the same or worse than what Marty did when he purposely ruined peoples lives and broke up their families and harrassed them and covered up evidence in murder investigations?