You are a good man, Martin and I know others agreed with you about David Mayo and appreciate you sticking your neck out there for him. I even got an email reply from an indy saying
"I think it may be hard for Marty to deal with people that have been paid off because he is taking a lot of heat and if others were bought off it would make his job harder. I do feel that Mayo is an exception due to when he fought dm and him having limited resources. I do feel that Mayo is an exception due to when he fought dm and him having limited resources. I feel Mr. Mayo is worthy of admiration based on what I know of the man."
Bottom line, Marty is just not worth reasoing with. However, I think I shut him up fpr a while with my last comment - which he actually posted uncensored, after attacking me for coming to your defense.
martyrathbun09 | March 24, 2012 at 11:41 pm | Reply
Thanks Martin. You have provided valuable information narrowing the target of the investigation and evaluation. Really.
Mary McConnell | March 25, 2012 at 3:58 pm | Reply
Who’s investigation and evaluation? Your? The church’s? Or both? Please expound on what you are saying here.
Martin Ruston is nobody’s tool. He’s one of the most beloved and fair minded former members , a man of integrity and grace. Your treatment of him on this blog, expecially in this response to his earnest attempt to reason with you, speaks more about you than him.
So do tell. Who’s investigation and evaluation are you speak of?
martyrathbun09 | March 25, 2012 at 7:04 pm | Reply
Check out the blog post the day before “Indpendents, now and then” upon which you comment – “Council for Spiritual Integrity”, for your answers. Your reaction is a marvelous study in the long-term effects of cultification.
Mary McConnell | March 25, 2012 at 10:02 pm | Reply
You have no idea who I am, what groups I have belonged to, and what I believe. All I did was ask a simple question and comment on your response to Martin, which I felt was uncalled for. Your reaction to my comment is a sad demonstration in ignorance and bias, as was your reaction to Martin’s comment. You presume we are some throwback freezoners but your presumption is wrong.
The only cult I was ever in was The Church of Scientology, where free speech did not exist and the the threat of censorship loomed large and suppressed many. In the real world, people communicate, not trounce and attack.
martyrathbun09 | March 26, 2012 at 1:07 am |
I haven’t presumed a single thing. Your communication characterizes my words in the prism of a fixed (and quite irrational) obsession to defend a guy who attacked as the victim, despite the quite apparent facts to the contrary. You think, act and communicate like a cult member. Grow up or find another forum.
martin ruston | March 25, 2012 at 8:12 pm | Reply
Thank you Mary. However it won’t change marty’s opinions. I am not a Hubbard man and that is the essence of it. Neither am I marty man and maybe that is more telling.
martyrathbun09 | March 25, 2012 at 8:26 pm | Reply
The former tells me all I need to know. Those who know me know that the latter is irrelevant to me.
Mary McConnell | March 26, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
Consider this advise from the Old Man.
LRH stated in HCO PL 30 May 71 ‘Manners’ :
Throughout all races “bad manners” are condemed”
Those with “bad manners” are rejected. [..]
Arrogance and force may win domination and control but will never win acceptance and respect. [..]
I'm not posting much on the forums except tippingpoint so PM me if you feel the need to contact me.