Please, help! I am afraid to loose my beloved one!

[Panda Termint]

This would NEVER be allowed now. No way.

So I've heard, Synthia. I left in 2008.

[Outethicsofficer]

Back in 1984 I found Scientology I was newly married and had a stepdaughter who was around 4 years old, a job with a lot of responsibility and I loved my wife, but not enough it turned out when my marriage was put to the test when I joined the SO.

I won't go into a lot of detail and instead fast forward to where I delivered an ultimatum to my wife. She was sent ahead of me from Cairns to Sydney while I remained and wrapped up what was left of our project prepare ( those things in the wog world you are expected to complete prior to your arrival onto the EPF ).

When after a week or so upon my arrival I found her to be in such a state of upset over the conditions and the whole Sea Org thing she wanted to leave, the conditions were atrocious. She had been put into a dorm with 30 or so other women, bunks one on top of another to sleep on and a young child to care for!

The place was filthy.

I remember this as if it happened yesterday, I was on my routing onto the EPF form and my wife, I was told, was creating a problem and I had to handle it, I found her in the stairwell in the Castlereagh building, she was crying and visibly distraught over what she was experiencing, see I had been the driving force to go into the SO and nothing was holding me back from doing my part in saving the planet, no job, no commitments and now no wife was going to get in the way of that purpose!

So what did I do?

Well I went up to her and said, "I am staying with or without you" that was my handling, she folded and joined too. She had a choice, but certainly not one for a newly married woman to have to make, I bet she never expected me to say that to her but I did and that was probably the very point where our marriage broke up, even if it took a few years for it get to divorce, that point was the breaking point.


So run girl run because if he has the virus, the save the planet and every man, woman and child on it scientology virus, you will be crushed by the organisation and he will play his part in crushing you. That is just the way it is.

[still here]

Just a quick note...the last post was interesting because the choice was very clear .."I am staying with or without you".
The SO demands complete loyalty and conviction - the choice your boyfriend is making (has made) is between the SO or you and it is clear he has chosen.
It is no different than choosing another woman (except it demands more than any partner ever would)
He made his choice and you must make your escape.
I am full of admiration that all on your own you have remained strong and focussed, sought out information and support here and are already on the path to escape and freedom.
You are a powerful, brave and wonderful being - they will be queueing up to love you - just wait and see. (and they will love you!)
Love to you.

[Lone Star]

HelpNeeded I am so glad that you had the wherewithal and wisdom to join this forum and ask for help. This will probably save you from the full cult of scientology experience. However you are still experiencing the pain of loss. I am so sorry about that. Another relationship broken up by this damn cult. It's infuriating!

Keep using us as a support group. It's wonderful that you don't have to go through this without people who not only understand, but have also experienced what you're dealing with right now.

Our collective thoughts and warm wishes are with you.

[HelluvaHoax!]

Sure, but he didn't say any of that, he said "to achieve OTIII" and that is just plain wrong. And, just so you know, I didn't spend anything like $360K to get to and thru OT VIII.

I never upgraded my IAS status from the irreducible minimum Lifetime. I never gave a cent to Ideal Orgs. I did give $5 to the SP Building project once (to get thru one of those interminable Leaving Flag Routing Forms) and once bought a crap LRH fiction book from Authors Services just so I wouldn't have to listen to any more of the mind-numbing spiel!

I had a routine that shooed the Flag Vultures away and it served me well.

(As to the question af the actual cost of doing business with the CofS, an honest Registrar would answer, "How much have you got? We'll take it!")

Yeah, likewise, I absolutely refused to give any money to "special donation projects" and wouldn't even buy a lifetime membership. The looks on people's faces when I told them I was not a lifetime member was horrifying. They simply had no way to understand or accept that kind of (what they thought was ) stupidity, reactive aberration or suppressiveness on my part.

Now that post of yours reminds me of a definition:

CELEBRITY: Anyone whose bank account balance equals or exceeds their tech estimate.

And inspires a new one. . .

TECH ESTIMATE: The aggregate total sum of a Scientologist's bank account balances, available bank card/loan credit limits, equitable liquidation value of real estate and/or personal assets and net expendable income over the next two decades.

[TheRealNoUser]

snip... If you want to keep him as a friend, try this:

1) Shut up completely (not a word!) about Scientology, and

2) When he comes to you about it, appreciate his invitation as a sign that he cares about you, and decline graciously. It will bug him for a while that you aren't on the Bridge, but he'll get over it.

Then just be his friend, have fun, invite him to do stuff (when he has time)! I have seen good friendships between Scientologists and non-scientologists. The above rules seem to happen naturally if these friendships are to survive. ...snip

I think this is terrible advice. It is pandering to the Scientologist, and worse ... it is using Hubbard's very own "good roads, good weather" tech.

All the while you will be getting taken advantage of, and manipulated.

He won't get over you not being on the "Bridge". It will be an all-consuming task for him until you join the cult.

TRNU.

[Claire Swazey]

This would NEVER be allowed now. No way.

I bet you anything that I could have gotten away with it, even if I were in now.

I'm serious. I could do it. Really.

[TheRealNoUser]

I bet you anything that I could have gotten away with it, even if I were in now.

I'm serious. I could do it. Really.

We need proof Claire. You're going to have to re-join I'm afraid.
... ... ...

[Claire Swazey]

Aaaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhhhhh!!! Eeeeekkkkkk!!!!

[Commander Birdsong]

Back in 1984 I found Scientology I was newly married and had a stepdaughter who was around 4 years old, a job with a lot of responsibility and I loved my wife, but not enough it turned out when my marriage was put to the test when I joined the SO.

I won't go into a lot of detail and instead fast forward to where I delivered an ultimatum to my wife. She was sent ahead of me from Cairns to Sydney while I remained and wrapped up what was left of our project prepare ( those things in the wog world you are expected to complete prior to your arrival onto the EPF ).

When after a week or so upon my arrival I found her to be in such a state of upset over the conditions and the whole Sea Org thing she wanted to leave, the conditions were atrocious. She had been put into a dorm with 30 or so other women, bunks one on top of another to sleep on and a young child to care for!

The place was filthy.

I remember this as if it happened yesterday, I was on my routing onto the EPF form and my wife, I was told, was creating a problem and I had to handle it, I found her in the stairwell in the Castlereagh building, she was crying and visibly distraught over what she was experiencing, see I had been the driving force to go into the SO and nothing was holding me back from doing my part in saving the planet, no job, no commitments and now no wife was going to get in the way of that purpose!

So what did I do?

Well I went up to her and said, "I am staying with or without you" that was my handling, she folded and joined too. She had a choice, but certainly not one for a newly married woman to have to make, I bet she never expected me to say that to her but I did and that was probably the very point where our marriage broke up, even if it took a few years for it get to divorce, that point was the breaking point.


So run girl run because if he has the virus, the save the planet and every man, woman and child on it scientology virus, you will be crushed by the organisation and he will play his part in crushing you. That is just the way it is.

my,my...

this board has some bold courageous pieces of memoir

you are shootin' from the hip cowboy