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    ^^^^^^^

    Just kidding.

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    Re: Hubbard & $cientology, R2-45, Disconnection, Fair Game, etc. What goes around comes around.
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    "I was instructed to kill"

    Captain Scott Mayer Affidavit

    Memorial Page


    "22. While I was in the Sea Org, I was instructed to kill
    another human being by the Scientology organization.
    At the time
    Scientology had an office on Beacon Avenue in Los Angeles, very
    close to McArthur Park. I was called in for a briefing by Alex
    Sibryski. At that time, Scientology had a ranch at Rosarito in
    Mexico which was being used as a nursery, a place for overflow
    kids that could not be housed in Los Angeles and a place to grow
    fruits and vegetables. Mexican bandits were allegedly harassing
    and hustling the ranch and stealing produce from it. Jerry
    McDonald and I were asked to put together a mission to go down to
    Mexico, take some infrared optics and some guns and rifles, wait
    for the Mexican bandits to attack the ranch again and then take
    care of them. We were told to kill them if necessary. I received
    these orders from Alex Sibryski. At the time he was Commanding
    Officer Flag Operations Western U.S. ("F.O.L.O.W.U.S."). This
    was part of Scientology's elite Sea Organization. I was the
    Operations Officer at Flags Operations Liaison Office at the time

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    and it was my job to write the mission orders for this thing and
    get us all briefed and ready to go. We figured that if we "took
    out" the bandit leaders the rest would disband. It took 24-48
    hours to get this done and in the course of that time I never saw
    any written dispatches on this but the mission was then canceled
    by Alex Sibryski. He said that there was a governess in-charge of
    the ranch and that the bandits had tried to attack her at the
    place and she had shot the bandit leader with a shotgun through
    the door and taken care of the problem.


    23. Jerry McDonald was widely rumored to have been a former
    mercenary and a paid assassin in Europe. He was known throughout
    the Sea Org for taking care of difficult problems. If someone was
    giving a problem in some area Jerry McDonald would just appear
    there. Because of his reputation as having been an assassin, if
    he came on the scene, people would fear for their lives. They
    believed that he was working totally for Scientology and that he
    would do anything for Hubbard. Additionally, he was also the kind
    of guy who would have people over to his house every now and then
    and would get out his automatic weapons, clean them and put them
    together in front of people. In this way, he would let people
    know that he was really conversant with his craft. He carried a 9
    mm pistol on him all the time and he was always talking about arms
    sales and deals that he was doing. As things turned out, he and I
    were not required to carry out the instructions to kill that we
    had received. However, if the orders had not been canceled I have
    no doubt that he could have performed the task."
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    Default Re: Did Hubbard actually order a hit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lermanet_com View Post
    "I was instructed to kill"

    Captain Scott Mayer Affidavit

    Memorial Page


    "22. While I was in the Sea Org, I was instructed to kill
    another human being by the Scientology organization.
    At the time
    Scientology had an office on Beacon Avenue in Los Angeles, very
    close to McArthur Park. I was called in for a briefing by Alex
    Sibryski. At that time, Scientology had a ranch at Rosarito in
    Mexico which was being used as a nursery, a place for overflow
    kids that could not be housed in Los Angeles and a place to grow
    fruits and vegetables. Mexican bandits were allegedly harassing
    and hustling the ranch and stealing produce from it. Jerry
    McDonald and I were asked to put together a mission to go down to
    Mexico, take some infrared optics and some guns and rifles, wait
    for the Mexican bandits to attack the ranch again and then take
    care of them. We were told to kill them if necessary. I received
    these orders from Alex Sibryski. At the time he was Commanding
    Officer Flag Operations Western U.S. ("F.O.L.O.W.U.S."). This
    was part of Scientology's elite Sea Organization. I was the
    Operations Officer at Flags Operations Liaison Office at the time

    -18


    \

    and it was my job to write the mission orders for this thing and
    get us all briefed and ready to go. We figured that if we "took
    out" the bandit leaders the rest would disband. It took 24-48
    hours to get this done and in the course of that time I never saw
    any written dispatches on this but the mission was then canceled
    by Alex Sibryski. He said that there was a governess in-charge of
    the ranch and that the bandits had tried to attack her at the
    place and she had shot the bandit leader with a shotgun through
    the door and taken care of the problem.


    23. Jerry McDonald was widely rumored to have been a former
    mercenary and a paid assassin in Europe. He was known throughout
    the Sea Org for taking care of difficult problems. If someone was
    giving a problem in some area Jerry McDonald would just appear
    there. Because of his reputation as having been an assassin, if
    he came on the scene, people would fear for their lives. They
    believed that he was working totally for Scientology and that he
    would do anything for Hubbard. Additionally, he was also the kind
    of guy who would have people over to his house every now and then
    and would get out his automatic weapons, clean them and put them
    together in front of people. In this way, he would let people
    know that he was really conversant with his craft. He carried a 9
    mm pistol on him all the time and he was always talking about arms
    sales and deals that he was doing. As things turned out, he and I
    were not required to carry out the instructions to kill that we
    had received. However, if the orders had not been canceled I have
    no doubt that he could have performed the task."

    It was not unheard of in the early Sea Org days ca '69 for some of the illuminati OT execs like McDonald or Fred Payer to be packing a piece, even in a land-based org.

    There was the Flag Order by Hubbard stating that: "All Sea Org members should be trained in Judo and small arms weaponry."

    I guess the vital need for martial arts & guns is pretty much the same as all the other deeply spiritual churches around the world. People questioning why Buddha did not promote guns should realize that revolvers and magazine-load semi-automatics were not yet available at that time.
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