Where on the Bridge is David Miscavige and other top Int execs?

[frasersworld]

Is DM really OT and is here anywhere on the Bridge at all? Do the other top execs over the years do the Bridge as well, like Rathbun and Rinder et al?

One of the things that I find confusing is if DM is not on the Bridge and is not on the OT levels, how would he be able to justify to other staff his revisions of tech and the OT levels and his access to the confidential materials?

If the guy is not anywhere bloody near OT 8, how could he justify his access to the upper levels, including the OT levels above 8. This bloody bastard has direct access to every Hubbard confidential material in existence yet he is not an auditor, has no tech training (yet was the architect of GAT and GAK), and basically is a terrorist.

I never understood how all that worked anyway. With the CST project for example, all the top secret materials are being preserved in steel plates and such, and it doesn't seem like the people handling and overseeing the projects are OT themselves or even have to be OT.

Basically the more I'm reading the more it seems clear Miscavige is the ultimate scammer who doesn't even believe in Scientology. And if he doesn't believe in Scientology, what is it just a power trip?

[phénix]

I think you're wrong.
Since scnientologists believe in scn they got to be OT in order to deal with OT materials, they think it's dangerous for them otherwise..
About DM that's a good question, I'm would guess he's pretty high on the "bridge" in order to justify who he is....

[Panda Termint]

If I remember correctly, DM is (per reports) mid-OTVII -and no longer auditing on that Level - and a (possibly failed) Class 4 Auditor.

As regards eligibility for access to Upper Level materials; the rules are for the Sheep, not the Wolves.

[Miss Pert]

I have no idea where on the Bridge DM is but according to Rinder on this interview with Tony Ortega DM was the CS on the Lisa McPherson case. How true this is I don't know.

[Panda Termint]

It's true, according to reports by someone (or three) who were actually there at the time.

(See Terril's post here http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthrea...l=1#post677159 for just one such example, there are others.)

[Idle Morgue]

Read the book 'Inside Scientology' by Janet Reitman.

DM is the product of the Bridge. According to the book, he is a trained auditor and C/S. He is the C/S that authorized Lisa McPherson's state of CLEAR. She had a psychotic break a few weeks later. He was the C/S that programmed her "Introspection/starvation/cockroach Infested Rundown at FLAG.

He killed her! Marty Rathbun destroyed the evidence.

DM spent our hard earned money to fight with the family and state prosecutor's for 7 years and lost the suit. He then had to pay million's of dollars to the family to get the madness to stop.

DM has to now play a bigger game so he can stop his thoughts from thinking about the blood dripping from his hands --- Idle Morgue's. That is quite a game! Who will really win?

DWARF Miscariage has done the L's, I am sure. He has done it all just like Hubbturd and this is the VERY VALUABLE PRODUCT of Scientology. Dwarf Miscabbage is Rich, filthy rich, an operating satan (thetan?) and cause over:

MATTER: (all of the bodies in the Morgues, the money and the buildings),

ENERGY: (SLAPPING, BEATING AND HUMILIATING SO MEMBERS, all of the extortion, controlling the SO members and putting them into the HOLE, suing, blackmail and bribery to get all of the money and free labor).

SPACE: (500 acres in California and home of the HOLE, Villas,
Bonney VIEW, chefs, hairdressers, messengers in hot pants, tanning booths, podiums with teleprompters and tons of confetti, 50,000 sq.ft. buildings totally renovated so DM has a stat - regardless what that will do to the staff members who have no clue why the buildings are EMPTY).

TIME: (all of your time to WORK FOR FREE, WORK at a wog job to make the money for Miscabbage to hide in the form of donations TO THE VARIOUS RELIGIOUS FRONT GROUPS (which in reality do nothing) and go to the Morgues to pretend something is getting done).

[Lulu Belle]

And if he doesn't believe in Scientology, what is it just a power trip?

uhm....yeah.

[GreyLensman]

Is DM really OT and is here anywhere on the Bridge at all? Do the other top execs over the years do the Bridge as well, like Rathbun and Rinder et al?

One of the things that I find confusing is if DM is not on the Bridge and is not on the OT levels, how would he be able to justify to other staff his revisions of tech and the OT levels and his access to the confidential materials?

If the guy is not anywhere bloody near OT 8, how could he justify his access to the upper levels, including the OT levels above 8. This bloody bastard has direct access to every Hubbard confidential material in existence yet he is not an auditor, has no tech training (yet was the architect of GAT and GAK), and basically is a terrorist.

I never understood how all that worked anyway. With the CST project for example, all the top secret materials are being preserved in steel plates and such, and it doesn't seem like the people handling and overseeing the projects are OT themselves or even have to be OT.

Basically the more I'm reading the more it seems clear Miscavige is the ultimate scammer who doesn't even believe in Scientology. And if he doesn't believe in Scientology, what is it just a power trip?

I think Miscavige both believes with all his heart that he is the only thing standing between Scientology and total anarchy and destruction and overt products, and he wakes up every day thanking Ron he's there to do the best he can despite the appalling people he has to deal with.

And I think he is holding the same dissonance in place that to some degree the rest of us did, though he's holding it from the other side. He is appalled at what he does and truly can't believe these morons really believe this shit.

I don't think you can be raised in the sadistic and insane world of the Sea Arrrgghhhh all of your life, be mentored by a batshit crazy old man who would stab you in the back in a heartbeat if you looked at him funny, and then run that place in an alternate from absolute rage to absolute confidence through the day, back and forth, without becoming completely psychotic.

And so he is. And yes, I've met him and looked him in the eye. I have friends who accidentally crossed him, and somehow their indicators weren't VGI's after dealing with this savior of humanity. If that's saving, go pound sand.

[Miss Pert]

I have no idea where on the Bridge DM is but according to Rinder on this interview with Tony Ortega DM was the CS on the Lisa McPherson case. How true this is I don't know.

OOPS!!! Forgot to include the link. Must be PTS or sumfin!

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[Ogsonofgroo]

Ain't so much a 'bridge' to him I am thinking, more like a conveyer to a wood-chipper, where people are fed in and separated from their money. After that particuylar 'seperation' does anyone really think he gives a fuck? I have had little doubt over the years of reading on many things scilon, that he knows full well what a huge scam it is, after all, he learned his craft from the sauced 'source'.
Figure it out, the guy has no skills other than living the lies of Hubbard, there is 'power', there is $$$$, and a tonne of sycophantic ass-kissery, what would Ron do?