The Golden State of Ideal Orgs?

[Sock Puppy]

Cross post from WWP:

Writing in the Village Voice, Tony Ortega recently published a copy of a flyer that came from the San Fernando Valley "Org." It had the title, "The Golden State of Ideal Orgs" and featured representations of various Ideal Orgs throughout California:



The moment I saw this flyer, I immediately knew something was up. There was a picture of the Orange County Org (Santa Ana, to be more specific). Like a lot of us So Cal folks, I had been following the progress of this org. While the picture in the flyer showed a gleaming, beautiful building, the real Org is a dilapidated mess. In fact, there was an entire thread on here previously that featured pictures from Diablo that showed what a wreck this building is, with broken windows, boarded up doors and a collapsed fire escape!

Here's the picture from the flyer:



For comparison, here's a picture I copied from Google Street View:



Here's a link to Diablo's original thread :

https://whyweprotest.net/community/t...-photos.94043/

And here's some of the close ups he took that show the Org's real condition:







So I was like, "wait, wut?" I mean, here they had a picture that clearly didn't match the reality, lol, I know, right?

Then I had a conversation with a friend who mentioned to me that the Scilons were doing work on the Valley Ideal Org. I remembered, there was a picture of that Org on the flyer that also showed it as being done!

Check it out:



I pulled up the Org in Google Street View. Obviously, night and day:



So now we're two for two, right? Out of curiosity, I started looking up other orgs on the flyer.

Here's their picture of Mountain View:



And here's what it looks like in Google Street View:



OK, so you can see that absolutely nothing's been done on that location. And they're trying to pass it off as being completed?

One more, here's Steven's Creek. Obviously, this one's a lot closer, but you still have elements that aren't there in actuality, like the fountain. BTW, the comparison picture came from Anons that raided the place, lol!



And the real Steven's Creek:



Anyway, this just seems to show how desperate they are to show evidence of their "expansion," even to the point of heavily doctoring these photos to show all these Ideal Orgs, some of which are works in progress and others where nothing seems to be going on at all.

Oh, and by the way, the Ideal Org they list for San Diego is not the Ideal Org there, it's their regular Org. Somehow they managed to not include the huge "For Sale" sign on the building in their picture of it.

[SpecialFrog]

I like this and would like to see more of it as it pertains to worldwide ideal orgs.

Any sense of the dates on the Google Street View? Would be good to confirm that they aren't just old.

I know that the CoS has done this sort of thing in the past (Jaffa Org?) and I suspect that the GSV images are representative but good to have your data solid.

[Lulu Belle]

Wow.

You know, it's hard for me to remember how Scientology ever sent out any promotion at all before the invention of Photoshop.

[Sock Puppy]

I like this and would like to see more of it as it pertains to worldwide ideal orgs.

Any sense of the dates on the Google Street View? Would be good to confirm that they aren't just old.

I know that the CoS has done this sort of thing in the past (Jaffa Org?) and I suspect that the GSV images are representative but good to have your data solid.

Thanks. The two orgs that I can vouch for are, as mentioned, Santa Ana and the Valley Org.

Diablo's pictures of the Santa Ana are from last year and from all accounts, the Org is in pretty much the same state. I know people who drive by it all the time.

Also, as mentioned, I talked to someone last week who had just driven by the Valley Org and saw that it was a mess.

The Mountain View Org Google Streetview picture is from 2009. I haven't been able to find any more recent pics of it. One of my hopes in cross-posting here is that someone who lives in that area may be able to shed light on any recent activity.

Steven's Ranch? The picture is from Anons taken in 2010 and the difference, as noted, isn't as dramatic as with some of the others.

Having identified some fairly significant Photoshopping activity on the first two Orgs, the purpose was really to try and identify the other most likely candidates.

[Miss Pert]

Sorry for the derail Sock Puppy but I LOVE your nick and avatar!!!!

[Sock Puppy]

Sorry for the derail Sock Puppy but I LOVE your nick and avatar!!!!

Hey, you can derail my threads like that any time!! Did I mention what excellent tase you have?

[Lulu Belle]

Sorry for the derail Sock Puppy but I LOVE your nick and avatar!!!!

I was thinking the same thing.

[GreyLensman]

The "1st Ideal State". That's a concept right out of 1984...

The last people I want having any influence anywhere would be"in-ethics Scientologists." Shudder.

[Sock Puppy]

I was thinking the same thing.

Shucks, I'm going to blush!!

[Ogsonofgroo]

Nice building! (for a movie set requiring a creepy 19th century insanasylum, complete with 'extras')