Setting the Record Straight

[Misterfabian]

I wasn't around in the ars days so I don't have a lot of info on it all.

I'd like to ask you why you now feel it is time to out yourself? Has something specific happened, will you share it and what do you expect the consequences to be?

If you never worked for OSA, why did you do what they do?

I suggest you re-read the original post.

[Misterfabian]

I am sure they will contact you and tell you what they require. Until then, I'm okay with you posting here as long as it isn't vicious, mean stuff. I think it's good you took the first step and I congratulate you on this. That took personal courage.

I've already sent Aida an email about this. All she has to do is contact me and we can work out the details of bringing the blog and their posts down.

There's also the situation with Marty forwarding the false information about me from Aida's blog on his blog.

[Ogsonofgroo]

Uh-huh eh...



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'How intersting', ta quote a fav poster of mine

[sallydannce]

Misterfabian

I remember one day we were talking about something and he looks at me with a surprise on his face and said: “Ah, you’re a truth seeker”. I then said: “Well, isn’t everyone?” and he then said: “no”. This early man of wisdom in my life was into Buddhism.

The Fourth Precept…

“Aware of the suffering caused by unmindful speech and the inability to listen to others, I am committed to cultivating loving speech and compassionate listening in order to relieve suffering and to promote reconciliation and peace in myself and among other people, ethnic and religious groups, and nations. Knowing that words can create happiness or suffering, I am committed to speaking truthfully using words that inspire confidence, joy, and hope. When anger is manifesting in me, I am determined not to speak.”

http://www.existentialbuddhist.com/2...fourth-precept

Wrong or harmful speech is not easy to practice, at those times when we are full of anger, of hurt or burning for revenge.

Words can cause no end of misery in these modern times of the internet.

That is all I will say.

[Dulloldfart]

I feel that honesty is the best policy at his point.

Well, this is unexpected. Guess we'll see, won't we?

So what Scn services have you done, Tim Higgs, and where and when? Are you mentioned on Kirsti's site (Truth about Scientology) anywhere, under a different name maybe?

P.S. Please don't ban him (yet), Ems.

Paul

[Gottabrain]

^^

MrFabian, please answer Paul's questions above.

[Emma]

Once you're done with everyone else's questions, I'd like to know if it was you posting as Flash Gordon here on ESMB.

I'd also like to know what other aliases you've had while here.

[Magoo]

Interesting you posted this Wednesday night....
before Thursday at 2:00, as Casper pointed out to me. Oh yeah!

Hmmmm.....let's just pretend....somehow OSA has been using you,
which is quite possible, as you've said, and I've told you, for years.
Their goals on the Net are
1) Distract off of any "hot" topic. You did that, for years, writing lies
about me, Arnie, and Gawd knows who else.
What's very hot today? This:
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin..._interview.php

2) Slander any and ALL critics they hate.
They most definitely hate me---which you slandered
for many years, thousands of lies about me, including
putting my name and number (and TOTALLY false info about
me sexually) on the Net. As I mentioned, your computer
was traced down to this post, and a Police report was filed
after you did so.

3) Divide and Conquer.....sliming an area and breaking it up.
You helped with this, for quite some time.

Who you *really* are? I don't know. I'd like to just feel joy that
you've come clean, but somehow I still don't trust you. Had I
done what you've done..........which I would NOT, EVER....but
had I, the first thing I would do is contact personally those that
I had lied about or hurt. If they were pissed, I wouldn't ignore
them as you've just done with me.
An example was when I first escaped out, I told Bob Minton that
I had bought many of OSA's Lies about him, and passed them on,
and I was very, very sorry. You want to know what he said to me?

"Tory, Saying "I'm sorry" isn't enough. You've supported this evil
organization that has harmed sooooooooo many people and families.
You need to make up the damage done". I've never forgotten what he
said, and I constantly work on doing just that.

For your sake, I hope you are who you say you are.
For your sake, I hope you also work on making up the damage
to the people you have lied about and harmed.

To my fellow esmbers...........I know I'm a bit heavy on this, but please
understand, this wasn't a few little lies about me. This person wrote lie
after lie, after lie after lie. He told people I was responsible for why a man
committed suicide. He told people the LMT went down because of me.
I can't even remember all the lies he told about me, but they were constant for years---until we caught him posting my name and phone # on a Porn site.
Once that police report was filed, he vanished, for years. (Also, with EACH lie,
he'd add on ALL of the earlier lies).

Enough. Happy Thursday to ALL
Tory/Magoo
PS: What you can do to start making up the damage is create a web
site for ALL the people you lied about. Post each lie (and I know you have
them as you had them recorded, for years...up to 100+ with 99 on down
listed each time). So take each lie...and admit YOU made it up, or where
you heard it from. This isn't over, by any means.

PSS: I have copies of SOME of the hundreds of lies, TS.
I also have porn e-mails that were sent to me, thanks to you.
"You got some esplain'in to do"

[Freeminds]

I know nothing about any of these past events. I've read the thread (and others) and I want to share the opinion of one with no 'baggage'. Nobody put my name and telephone number up on a porn site, etc... nobody has ever 'outed' me.

You know what?

This is Scientology. This whole thing was caused by L Ron Hubbard, and the twisted caricature of morality that he fostered. This is what Scientology does in the world, and this is what Scientology does to people.

There were no wins and no winners in this tale. Everybody comes out of it worse off. Even Scientology comes off with its reputation yet more tarnished, and that's not surprising because Scientology is flawed and is failing as a result of its flaws. The actions of OSA and the GO are not the actions of any sort of respectable institution; even when it initiates these operations, Scientology ends up worse off. Sooner or later, the truth about Scientology always leaks out - because Scientology is in constant decay.

Meanwhile, people inside and out get hurt by these ops. Yes, even the people who perform these ops get used, chewed up and spat out.

This is Scientology. It's always the same, and always will be, until the end.

[Misterfabian]

Well, this is unexpected. Guess we'll see, won't we?

So what Scn services have you done, Tim Higgs, and where and when? Are you mentioned on Kirsti's site (Truth about Scientology) anywhere, under a different name maybe?

P.S. Please don't ban him (yet), Ems.

Paul

Actually, not many services to speak of. I was a public back in the late 90's. Mostly I purchased lots of books and thousands of dollars worth of tape lectures series and was self auditing myself.