Alternative to Meds Center - Sedona

[cricketzeke]

I wonder if anyone has any information on the Alternative to Meds center in Sedona. It is recommended by the DVD "Dead Wrong" which is touted by the CCHR. I'm trying to determine if it is a SCN front as I have a family member who may go there for prescription med treatment.

I'm not an ex SCN, but I have family members who have married into the group. (I thought of the group as a religiib...of sorts until I read Janet Reitman's terrific book.)

Many thanks!

--cricket

[Gottabrain]

I wonder if anyone has any information on the Alternative to Meds center in Sedona. It is recommended by the DVD "Dead Wrong" which is touted by the CCHR. I'm trying to determine if it is a SCN front as I have a family member who may go there for prescription med treatment.

I'm not an ex SCN, but I have family members who have married into the group. (I thought of the group as a religiib...of sorts until I read Janet Reitman's terrific book.)

Many thanks!

--cricket

Sedona! Thank you for providing the name of this place, as I have heard quite a bit about it directly from Scientologists who had cancer.

When you get more information, can you include it?

When I was at AOLA in the 1980s, I knew of several people who went to Sedona because it advertised it could "cure cancer".

They were not cured. All died.

Their names are not included in the "Why are they Dead?" list and they need to be included.

Sedona needs to be investigated. It is a scam that takes advantage of desperate people and denies them proper medical care that COULD save their lives.

[degraded being]

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"....FYI, readers, ATMC is similar to what Hayes, et al, are doing, except Lyle Murphy adds his food theory to the program and he is not a scientologist - he's what Scns call an 'illegal PC' because of his psych history- they don't want him. He contracted with ABLE on the Clear Mind Clear Body and other Narconon related materials previously when he was in SF. Yes, his program is dangerous..."

[Helena Handbasket]

I have no idea if ATMC is a front group, but Sedona, Arizona has a reputation for being the sort of place where alternative therapies can be found. And it would be just like scn to set up a group there, to take advantage of Sedona's name.

I'm a firm believer in "alternative" medical treatment. Standard medicine, called allopathy, is often no more than a speedy road to a comfortable death (alleviating symptoms while doing nothing to cure the underlying disease, or making it worse).

Every now and then you hear about somebody dying in an alternative medicine environment, and the authorities coming down on them saying, if only the person went to a "real doctor" instead, they may still be alive. Yet how many people die each year under the care of "real doctors"? The stats (forgive the use of that word) are not in their favour.

Very often, people seek alternative treatment after "regular" medicine has failed. This means they show up at the alternative centre practically at death's door. If I were running such a centre, I wouldn't accept anyone who was so far gone. Yet these places do, and many achieve full recoveries.

I'm into alternatives myself, taking everything from vitamins to B12 injections to HRT. (One of these days, I'm even going to start exercising again! )

Helena