Results 1 to 4 of 4

Thread: Why the Purif. and Narconon detoxification programmes are illegal in Europe

  1. #1
    Gold Meritorious Patron RolandRB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany (ex-London)
    Posts
    2,075

    Default Why the Purif. and Narconon detoxification programmes are illegal in Europe

    I'll add to this list when I think of the illegal things the Scientologists are doing in the UK re the Purification Rundown and the Narconon detoxification programme and therefore why it must be stopped in the UK (as has already happened in France). "HCOPL" is an abbreviation of "Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter" and the Church of Scientology will possess all these issues and can show them to the relevent authorities.



    1) They are aiming to "cure" the body and improve the functioning of the mind with vitamins, rather than just encourage their members to eat a healthy diet, and therefore this constitutes "practising medicine without a licence" (see book "Clear Body; Clear Mind" for what they are aiming to achieve with the programme).

    2) The doses of vitamins are above the dietary maximum many fold and at a level that can cause physiological changes so again they are practising medicine without a licence (the following "drug bomb" is administered 4x daily - http://www.narconon-europa.net/drugbomb.htm )

    3) The dose levels rise to toxic levels which is a danger to health and might cause damage to the liver (see previous point 2).

    4) Doses that are aimed at causing physiological changes and that possibly cause adverse events have to be of prescription quality with their manufacture controlled and approved by the relevent drug authority and in this case it is not.

    5) They are advising on the beneficial effects of vitamins whereas under European law no such thing is allowed unless it is a registered "claim" for the vitamin and has been so approved by the EU( http://www.food.gov.uk/multimedia/pd...thclaims03.pdf ).

    6) By recommending the positive benefits of the vitamins and reselling them to its members then they are acting as an "illegal pharmacy" (there was a recent successful prosection in France concerning this matter).

    7) They are endangering the health of their members using this programme and not medically supervising them whilst on this programme using qualified medical staff.

    8) They are failing to monitor pulse rate, blood pressure and liver enzyme levels which should be a minimum for such a programme (pulse rate and blood pressure once a day - liver enzyme levels once every few days and before programme start).

    9) They are preventing or discouraging members on such a programme from consulting with their house doctor (GP) should they feel a need, due to internal Scientology policies, therefore they are preventing or discouraging access to qualified medical personnel whilst on this potentially harmful programme (HCOPL 26 July 1965 "Release Declaration Restrictions Healing Amendments").

    10) Their response to adverse events occuring on the programme is medically inappropriate in that instead of stopping the program or reducing dosage they apply their internal policies to continue the programme using their reasoning of "what turns it on will turn it off" and "the way out is the way through" (HCOPL 27 May 1965, "Processing").

    11) Should a member become so ill on the programme that they have to discontinue it, they are prevented or discouraged from consulting with their doctor (GP) and instead are expected to use Scientology processes to resolve the problem (which processes they will have to pay for), rather than blame the programme itself. The Scientology processes to resolve the problem go the route: Green Form (HCOPL 7 April 1970RB); C/S Series 53 RL SF; PTS/SP course; PTS Rundown. This will cost them a lot of money and take up a lot of time and so prevent them from seeking medical help that may be urgently required as a result of damage done to their health whilst on the original programme.

  2. #2
    Gold Meritorious Patron Ogsonofgroo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Pacific NW, southern BC, in de trees
    Posts
    3,790
    Blog Entries
    9

    Default Re: Why the Purif. and Narconon detoxification programmes are illegal in Europe

    Yup, and so much more.
    At first I was prepared for a troll thread, but you have hit some of the basic major points Roland, thanks!

    (and there's lots of threads on this, most predominantly david Love's effort)

    'Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. I am not afraid.'
    Marcus Aurelius

    THE BIG LIST of EX'S who have Spoken Out

  3. #3
    Gold Meritorious Patron RolandRB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany (ex-London)
    Posts
    2,075

    Default Re: Why the Purif. and Narconon detoxification programmes are illegal in Europe

    (updated version)
    -----------------------------------------------
    I'll add to this list when I think of the illegal things the Scientologists are doing in the UK re the Purification Rundown and the Narconon detoxification programme and therefore why it must be stopped in the UK (as has already happened in France). "HCOPL" is an abbreviation of "Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter" and the Church of Scientology will possess all these issues and can show them to the relevent authorities.

    1) They are aiming to "cure" the body and improve the functioning of the mind with vitamins, rather than just encourage their members to eat a healthy diet, and therefore this constitutes "practising medicine without a licence" (see book "Clear Body; Clear Mind" for what they are aiming to achieve with the programme and follow link http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Howweregulat....ucts/index.htm for a legal definition of "medicine" according to EU law).

    2) The doses of vitamins are above the dietary maximum many fold and at a level that can cause physiological changes so again they are practising medicine without a licence (the following "drug bomb" is administered 4x daily - http://www.narconon-europa.net/drugbomb.htm - e.g. the niacin maximum dose of 4g daily exceeds the typical maximum prescribed dose for the lowering of cholesterol )

    3) The dose levels rise to toxic levels which is a danger to health and might cause damage to the liver (see previous point 2).

    4) Ingested substances that are aimed at causing physiological changes and that possibly cause adverse events have to be of prescription quality with their manufacture controlled and approved by the relevent drug authority and in this case it is not.

    5) They are advising on the beneficial effects of vitamins whereas under European law no such thing is allowed unless it is a registered "claim" for the vitamin and has been so approved by the EU( http://www.food.gov.uk/multimedia/pd...thclaims03.pdf ).

    6) By recommending the positive benefits of the vitamins and reselling them to its members then they are acting as an "illegal pharmacy" (they were recently prosecuted in France concerning this matter).

    7) They are endangering the health of their members using this programme and not medically supervising them whilst on this programme using qualified medical staff.

    8) They are failing to monitor pulse rate, blood pressure and liver enzyme levels which should be a minimum for such a programme which includes vigorous physical exercise plus long total daily periods in a sauna (pulse rate and blood pressure once a day - liver enzyme levels once every few days and before programme start).

    9) They are preventing or discouraging members on such a programme from consulting with their house doctor (GP) should they feel a need, due to internal Scientology policies, therefore they are preventing or discouraging access to qualified medical personnel whilst on this potentially harmful programme (HCOPL 26 July 1965 "Release Declaration Restrictions Healing Amendments").

    10) Their response to adverse events occuring on the programme is medically inappropriate in that instead of stopping the program or reducing dosage they apply their internal policies to continue the programme using their reasoning of "what turns it on will turn it off" and "the way out is the way through" (HCOPL 27 May 1965, "Processing").

    11) Should a member become so ill on the programme that they have to discontinue it, they are prevented or discouraged from consulting with their house doctor (GP) and instead are expected to use Scientology processes to resolve the problem (which processes they will have to pay for) rather than blame the programme itself. The Scientology processes to resolve the problem go the route: Green Form (HCOPL 7 April 1970RB); C/S Series 53 RL SF; PTS/SP course; PTS Rundown. This will cost them a lot of money and take up a lot of time and so prevent them from seeking medical help that may be urgently required as a result of damage done to their health whilst on the original programme.

  4. Likes programmer_guy, Ogsonofgroo liked this post
  5. #4
    Gottabrain
    Guest

    Default Re: Why the Purif. and Narconon detoxification programmes are illegal in Europe

    Nice work, Roland. It's appreciated.

    I wrote you a bit on this on WWP.

    One suggestion I have is that the doctor be personally responsible for the specific vitamins and medications (or lack of) administered in the care plan and be required to contact the GP if any problems.

    No doctor would agree to be personally liable for an individual taking these insane vitamin doses and for omitting vital medications. If the doctor is not willing to take personal responsibility for the individual taking these doses, then the program does not meet medical standards for accreditation.

    Perhaps merely pointing this out will be sufficient to get any government funds or accreditation cancelled.

  6. Likes programmer_guy, FreeBeing liked this post

Similar Threads

  1. RICO Claims Filed against Narconon GA Narconon INT, et al
    By AnonyMary in forum Legal and Government Actions against Scientology
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 30th April 2012, 02:35 AM
  2. Purif and Niacin
    By Knox Harrington in forum Scientology technology
    Replies: 97
    Last Post: 7th March 2012, 08:40 PM
  3. what did I get 'out" of the purif? Does anybody know?
    By Mimsey Borogrove in forum Evaluating/criticising Scientology
    Replies: 57
    Last Post: 16th December 2011, 04:57 AM
  4. Purif in Canberra
    By Terril park in forum Freezone, Independents, and other flavors of scientology
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 9th November 2009, 01:30 PM
  5. Purif Alternatives
    By Div6 in forum Human Potential, self discovery outside and beyond Scientology
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 9th October 2007, 01:06 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •