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    Xenophon may sue Malaysian newspaper
    May 3, 2012

    INDEPENDENT senator Nick Xenophon has been subjected to an extraordinary attack by a state-controlled Malaysian newspaper - publishing a 2009 speech in which he was critical of Scientology, but replacing references to that religion with the word ''Islam''.

    The deception has left Senator Xenophon stunned following a visit to Malaysia at the weekend to observe protests aimed at the ruling party. He told the Herald last night the word switch was an example of the kind of dirty tricks the ruling party employs and had used against the opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim.

    The article appeared in the New Straits Times and appears to be an attempt to discredit Senator Xenophon and Dr Anwar after the two met in recent days.

    Headlined ''Anti-Islam Australian lawmaker comes under fire'', the article quotes from a 2009 speech the South Australian senator delivered in Parliament.

    The article claims he said: ''Islam is not a religious organisation. It is a criminal organisation that hides behind its so-called religious beliefs.''

    Hansard - the official record of the Australian Parliament - records his speech as: ''Scientology is not a religious organisation. It is a criminal organisation that hides behind its so-called religious beliefs.''

    The press in Malaysia is often considered a mouthpiece of the ruling party that has controlled the country since independence. Senator Xenophon said he was seeking urgent legal advice to take the paper to court and wanted an immediate retraction.

    Dr Anwar was sacked as deputy prime minister in the late 1990s and served a prison sentence for sodomy, only to be charged with the same offence again after his release in what appeared an effort to derail his political ambitions.

    A Malaysian member of Parliament, Zahrain Mohamed Hashim, is quoted in the report saying Senator Xenophon was very outspoken against Islam and on lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender issues.

    ''Should we let someone like Xenophon influence our culture and moral values through politics? By confiding in Xenophon, is Anwar also supporting the LGBT movement?'' he said.

    He said Dr Anwar should be challenged ''on why he sought Xenophon as a confidant, as clearly Xenophon stands against Islamic values''.

    The New Straits Times refused to comment last night.

    Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opin...#ixzz1tkErS9s9

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/xenoph...-1226345263717

    http://www.theage.com.au/national/xe...502-1xzpd.html

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mor...-1226345250897

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/xenoph...rom=public_rss

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1226345252775

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1226345261109

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    What’s the betting a deluded cultist fed the New Straits Times this story in a pathetic attempt to have the Senator smeared?

    Obviously any right minded person would see that this would only backfire horribly, causing even more bad PR for the cult, but if they were ‘right-minded’ they wouldn’t still be in the cult, would they?

    Thinking about it, only a cultist would be stupid enough to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom142 View Post
    What’s the betting a deluded cultist fed the New Straits Times this story in a pathetic attempt to have the Senator smeared?

    Obviously any right minded person would see that this would only backfire horribly, causing even more bad PR for the cult, but if they were ‘right-minded’ they wouldn’t still be in the cult, would they?

    Thinking about it, only a cultist would be stupid enough to do this.

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    That seems doubtful to me, Ax. The Malay leadership are sufficiently corrupt to do this wholly on their own. For them it's a mere nothing compared to other smear efforts they have launched against Anwar.

    With Xenophon meeting Anwar, then misrepresenting Xenophon as anti-islamic suits their goal of representing Anwar as unsuitable for leadership in the Malay state. The Co$ doesn't matter in the least.

    Contrary to the views of some on the board, scientology is not the preeminent concern of all on the planet. Not even Xenophon. Neither is scientology the root of all evil.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A. Baker View Post
    That seems doubtful to me, Ax. The Malay leadership are sufficiently corrupt to do this wholly on their own. For them it's a mere nothing compared to other smear efforts they have launched against Anwar.

    With Xenophon meeting Anwar, then misrepresenting Xenophon as anti-islamic suits their goal of representing Anwar as unsuitable for leadership in the Malay state. The Co$ doesn't matter in the least.

    Contrary to the views of some on the board, scientology is not the preeminent concern of all on the planet. Not even Xenophon. Neither is scientology the root of all evil.


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    Maybe Mark, I don’t have any evidence of course.

    But consider this. Why would the Malay government get a newspaper to print such an egregious lie that would be absolutely certain to be disproved in a couple of minutes flat? All that does is show them to be liars in front of the whole world with absolutely no excuse for getting it wrong.

    You would have to be monumentally stupid to do that.

    Perhaps they are, but here’s another question. What group do we know that is not only monumentally stupid, but vindictive enough to try and smear someone or possibly get them physically attacked, by planting a false story?

    Perhaps a group that would fabricate bomb threats and then frame someone else for it? Or perhaps a group that thinks that they could infiltrate the FBI, department of justice and other government departments and steal documents and not get caught? How about harassing people in the street and not realise that they would get filmed and the whole world get to see the results?

    Scientology might not be the root of all evil, but the CoS have shown themselves to be very vindictive and willing to do (almost) anything to ‘even the score’.

    It is certainly not beyond the beyond the bounds of probability that a butt-hurt cultist sees a news story about Senator X going to Malaysia and decides to feed a story that suits the bigoted views of the regime, to a gullible press who can’t be bothered to check their facts.

    Perhaps we will never know, but it will be interesting to see if the paper prints a retraction or gives a reason for why they made this error. I notice that the original story on their website has already attracted a number of comments pointing out their mistake.

    http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general...rutiny-1.79786

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom142 View Post
    Maybe Mark, I don’t have any evidence of course. ...
    I'm no expert on Malaysian politics either, but I do know that the ruling party turned against Anwar some years back (he was at one time a 'rising star') and have stopped at nothing to discredit, disable, and disadvantage him politically in the country.


    ... But consider this. Why would the Malay government get a newspaper to print such an egregious lie that would be absolutely certain to be disproved in a couple of minutes flat? ...
    Because they have successfully done it before. This is not the first time they have targeted Anwar. Controlling the media is not difficult for them either. Neither is control of the judiciary.

    BTW, you don't actually think it matters much whether a newspaper is reporting fact? People routinely choose to believe all sorts of idiocies contrary to fact, often based on no more evidence than some angry idiot said so on the radio, or similar.

    Facts appeal to fact based individuals. That really isn't a substantial portion of the population. Most people decide things based on their 'gut'. That is not a reasoning organ.

    You're a Brit. Look at Murdoch.


    ... All that does is show them to be liars in front of the whole world with absolutely no excuse for getting it wrong. ...
    Why would that matter? What matters to them is control of Malaysia. That is working for them.

    It's not exactly a 'democratic country' as you know the term. Like Singapore has maintained for decades, it has the trappings of a form of democracy while nonetheless successfully maintaining a very corrupt single party rule.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A. Baker View Post
    Neither is scientology the root of all evil.


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    No, it's the love of scientology that is the root of ... oh, never mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A. Baker View Post
    I

    It's not exactly a 'democratic country' as you know the term. Like Singapore has maintained for decades, it has the trappings of a form of democracy while nonetheless successfully maintaining a very corrupt single party rule.


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    Sounds like the USA. Where 'corporation' is the single party rule/r.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackStraw View Post
    No, it's the love of scientology that is the root of ... oh, never mind.

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    Hm, I was going to say that it is rooted in evil, given the founder was a demented, rotten, greedy, lying, abusive, con-artist with little or no remorse for the lives he's thrashed.

    Thanks Lron you cowardly sack of guano.... oh wait, guano's useful... nm....

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    Gah I am hating this timing out of the edit function (grrrrrrr but oh well).

    Anyhow, in regards to the OP topic, its pretty shitty for the Malay paper to stoop so low and I don't blame the good senator for wanting a retraction at the very least. The sad aspect of this, other than smearing a fine and dedicated individual, is that the damage is done in a country where a paper is much more accessable than a computer, making it difficult for the average bloke over there to fact check. One thing I can think of is to try and reach some independant rags and float the truth of the matter to them, also I think that those of us here who are able to do so, is find and contribute to comments sections over there as well.
    Its a pipe dream but I hope the author(s) gets bitch slapped out of a job for creating what could well be construed as potentially provoking an international incident, yeh yeh, gov't run media
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    Nick Xenophon on Radio Australia.

    Click play on the 2 minute sound file.

    Australian Independent Senator Nick Xenophon says he's been defamed in the Malaysian press and says he'll be seeking an urgent meeting with Malaysia's High Commissioner.

    http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/int...amation/937606

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