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    It is a way that Scientology could harass him and make life difficult for him.
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    Just spent the last couple of hours trying to find the initial article cited in the OP to no avail, lots of 404 'resource not found' messages, kinda funny eh, just sort of mystipeared.
    After reading a tonne of headlines and several unrelated articles I have come to the conclusion that that gov't is totally fucked up and smells badly of deep corruption and dirty tricks.
    Also that the New Straits Times is bought and paid for by the powers that be, glad I don't live there and don't think I even want to visit there either even though I know that most of the people are just people, what a mess.
    Not going to hunt any more as my eyes have crossed, iya.

    Edit~ Yup, story seems to have vanished on further searching anyone else find it?

    To Nick X., kick 'em in the balls matey! (my opinion)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoTi View Post
    It is a way that Scientology could harass him and make life difficult for him.
    Not really. They would likely be opening themselves to a truly devastating libel suit from him in a country where the libel laws are much much stronger than in the u.s.. That sort of thing would be disastrous for them. They're not that overt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FoTi View Post
    It is a way that Scientology could harass him and make life difficult for him.
    Nah, he isn't the actual target, Anwar is, but I think we may find out eventually who created the story and what they cite as their sources, should be interesting.
    Wait and see how the Aus handle it, they are in negotiations for free-trade agreement with Malasia, and the Malays are also trying to fertilize the tourist industry.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogsonofgroo View Post
    Just spent the last couple of hours trying to find the initial article cited in the OP to no avail, lots of 404 'resource not found' messages, kinda funny eh, just sort of mystipeared.
    After reading a tonne of headlines and several unrelated articles I have come to the conclusion that that gov't is totally fucked up and smells badly of deep corruption and dirty tricks.
    Also that the New Straits Times is bought and paid for by the powers that be, glad I don't live there and don't think I even want to visit there either even though I know that most of the people are just people, what a mess.
    Not going to hunt any more as my eyes have crossed, iya.

    Edit~ Yup, story seems to have vanished on further searching anyone else find it?

    To Nick X., kick 'em in the balls matey! (my opinion)

    404 for me too on the New Straits Times but I found these...

    Google cache of original article:
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...rutiny-1.79786

    Copy of News article:
    http://www.petermartin.com.au/2012/0...b-done-on.html

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    then Dianetics is based on a lie, and then Scientology is based on a lie." - Tommy Davis


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    Malaysian Newspaper Apologizes for Statements Against Australian Senator

    http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/201...alian-senator/


    NST admits and regrets ‘anti-Islam’ report against Oz Senator

    By Clara Chooi
    The Malaysian Insider
    May 03, 2012

    http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2012/05/...st-oz-senator/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A. Baker View Post
    Not really. They would likely be opening themselves to a truly devastating libel suit from him in a country where the libel laws are much much stronger than in the u.s.. That sort of thing would be disastrous for them. They're not that overt.


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    Mark,

    Are you saying that Ax 142 is wasting his time speculating a preposterous notion that the Church of Scientology is applying FAIR GAME principles to Xenophon?

    Rd00

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    Thanks for the links guys! Anon delivers!
    My google-fu increased by 9000 with the cache thingies

    That went well with my morning , now lets wait and see what kind of retraction/apology NST publishes and whether it gets buried amongst all the other crap or whether it goes page 1 or 2...
    Regardless, I hope Nick X gets satisfaction, Datuk Hashim (the politician quoted for the slander) finds himself pushing a broom, and the writer of the initial article, ROY SEE WEI ZHI and company, spends the rest of his career writing fluffy animal stories.



    Oh, comments are open on this paper's blog > http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/201...alian-senator/
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    Default Retraqction and Apology by NST~

    Update!

    http://www.nst.com.my/latest/retract...pology-1.80346

    ....We hereby confirm that we have made a grave error in publishing the statements in the article. We accept that in his speech in the Australian Parliament referred to in the article, Mr Xenophon did not use the word “Islam” and neither did he assert that Islam is not a religious organisation but a criminal organisation hiding behind its religious belief.

    For the above reason, we hereby retract all the statements contained in the article against Mr Xenophon and unreservedly and unconditionally apologise to him for any distress or embarrassment caused by the article.

    Read more: Retraction and Apology - Latest - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/latest/retract...#ixzz1tpXyI6Zw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rene Descartes View Post
    Mark,

    Are you saying that Ax 142 is wasting his time speculating a preposterous notion that the Church of Scientology is applying FAIR GAME principles to Xenophon?

    Rd00
    I'm saying that I doubt very much that anyone from the Co$ had anything to do with the Malaysian smear of Xenophon.

    Malaysia has its own problems including especially a notoriously corrupt & despotic ruling party with long standing animosity towards one of its former key leaders, Anwar. Xenophon's interaction with Anwar would be a red flag to the existing leadership of Malaysia. Moreover, Xenophon as a politically aware and active individual of the Southwest Pacific Region would certainly be aware of that.

    Xenophon as an elected representative in the nation of Australia has concern for a wide variety of important interests on behalf of the people of Australia, interests far beyond those efforts he has expended on scientology. Frankly, the scientology interests Xenophon has pursued are likely to be among the least significant political concerns he has on his plate. The Co$ just isn't terribly important in comparison to other political issues. It just isn't.

    What is all too often overlooked is that not only is the Co$ NOT the only group of dirty tricksters on the international stage, they aren't even an important or significant factor as far as dirty tricksters go. They are pikers.

    The personal experiences of members of this board tend to overweight the importance of the church and scientology generally on world affairs. That may be understandable given the traumatic personal nature of many of those experiences, but I doubt very much that Xenophon makes that same mistake. Scientology just isn't that important to most of the world.


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