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    Renegade Scientologist Turns Down the National Enquirer
    By Richard Horgan on May 17, 2012 10:30 PM

    Guy Adams, LA-based correspondent for UK’s The Independent, recently traveled to Texas to interview Marty Rathbun. The resulting article made it clear why this former high-ranking (and now self-proclaimed “independent”) Scientologist has become such a thorn in the side of the Church since publicly resurfacing in 2009:

    His blog, Moving on Up a Little Higher, gets around 10,000 hits a day. It has been visited a total of six million times, is credited with encouraging scores of former Scientologists to quit, and has broken a string of sensational news stories about the Church, including film director Paul Haggis‘ resignation, in 2010, and January’s decision by Debbie Cook, a senior member of Church clergy, to quit in protest at what she called its “extreme” fundraising. Almost every former Scientologist I have spoken with checks it daily.

    True to form, Rathbun has shared another dramatic post today. He reveals a recent email exchange with Belinda Robinson, a reporter for the National Enquirer, during which he was offered $20,000 to spill his Tom Cruise auditing-session secrets. Rathbun had zero interest in the payola journalism pitch, but he does use it as an opportunity to link to some older pieces and warn the actor:

    As the recent email cycle between a National Enquirer “journalist” and myself clearly demonstrates, you have nothing to fear from me or the independent Scientologist community. As a matter of well-demonstrated fact, we have your back. As the referenced posts above clearly demonstrate you have every reason to continue to distance yourself from [David] Miscavige (any perceived “leadership” abilities notwithstanding) and corporate Scientology…

    Rathbun has previously claimed that Miscavige entertained guests with snippets from private Cruise confessionals conducted in 2001 at LA’s Celebrity Center.

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    Rathbun has previously claimed that Miscavige entertained guests with snippets from private Cruise confessionals conducted in 2001 at LA’s Celebrity Center.
    What kind of guests would DM have that would put up with him entertaining them with Cruise's private confessional info?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoTi View Post
    What kind of guests would DM have that would put up with him entertaining them with Cruise's private confessional info?
    Considering the numbers on this board who love to focus on matters of celebrity gossip, that would seem not to be an issue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A. Baker View Post
    Considering the numbers on this board who love to focus on matters of celebrity gossip, that would seem not to be an issue.


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    Anyone who does not include themselves in the "we" may be excluded from the "we" upon presentation of absolute proof that you never so much as sneak a peek yourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wants2Talk View Post

    -snip-

    True to form Rathbun has shared another dramatic post today. He reveals a recent email exchange with Belinda Robinson, a reporter for the National Enquirer, during which he was offered $20,000 to spill his Tom Cruise auditing-session secrets. Rathbun had zero interest in the payola journalism pitch, but he does use it as an opportunity to link to some older pieces and warn the actor:

    "As the recent email cycle between a National Enquirer “journalist” and myself clearly demonstrates, you have nothing to fear from me or the independent Scientologist community..."

    -snip-
    Why is that not reassuring?



    Years before Hubbard concocted his "PR tech" (both non-confidential and confidential), he wrote the 'Manual on Dissemination of Material'. As early as March 1955, Hubbard had devised an elaborate system of layering and compartmentalizing Scientology. It's quite elaborate. Here's a brief excerpt...

    "An outline of the communication lines of Scientology follows:

    "1. [What we would like the] General public [to say] to the general public.

    "2. Scientologists to general public."

    And then eight more categories of ____________ to ____________.

    From Hubbard's 1955 'Manual on Dissemination of Material':

    "...the communication line [to the non-Scientology public, and, these days, to 'handle-able' Exs] is that [Independent] Scientologists do not pose any threat, that [Independent] Scientologists are good citizens, and that they can be trusted with problems of a private and confidential nature... Another frame of mind that we would like to see the public have and register is that people attacking [Independent] Scientologists have something wrong with them... As a subdivision of this, the actual substance of communication about what Scientology actually is... from the general public to the general public [what the 'wogs' should say to each other about Scientology] should be that Scientology says that good health and immortality are attainable. That it is compounded out of all Man knows about Man..."


    'Ode to L. Ron Hubbard' by Marty Rathbun

    You said your legacy would be the tech
    but the dictator said otherwise
    and the church began its demise
    and hurt came to those who would object

    You said there was no hidden data line
    but the dictator said he knew better
    and burned all of your policy letters
    and the church went into long term decline

    You said the tech was timeless and free
    but the dictator wanted power and cash
    and made your truth a confusing hash
    and status and greed replaced the state of OT

    You acknowledged the loyalty of your gracious wife
    but the dictator used her as a stepping stone
    and she died forgotten, friendless and alone
    and thus he erased your dear Manuela from your life [Manuela was Simon Bolivar's girlfriend]

    You raised three fine children and one who died too soon
    but the dictator wanted them forgotten too
    and your progeny turned from sunshine to blue
    and the many who loved you wept under a sorrowful moon

    You had faith that your friends would make it come out right
    but the dictator mis-used your treasure to enervate them
    and black dianetics, reverse scientology internecine mayhem
    and with violence did he destroy their willingness to fight

    You said only truth could penetrate thick armor plate
    and though the dictator protested this fact
    it was your ace in the hole that has our back
    and everyday now more are working to reverse your fate

    And alas, it may take time and a perilous struggle
    but we assure you it is too late to reverse our tide
    you’ve got friends to the end of time on your side
    and come hell or high water we’ll emerge from this jungle

    Because we know you were right that the truth shall set us free
    and that is one thing no dictator will ever take away
    it will be your real friends standing at the end of day
    humanity freed, the only proper acknowledgment of thee


    Here L. Ron Hubbard explains of how he repeatedly turned down offers for him to work as a nuclear physicist on the secret Manhattan Project and, subsequently, was repeatedly sent into dangerous combat as punishment...




    Yes, folks, that's Marty Rathbun's beloved guru and psychological-political leader, L. Ron Hubbard.
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    I do wish Hubbard hadn't been such a self-serving, evil bastard. If he had been a cool dude, and had created such a deliberate and strong body with the intent of improving conditions IN REALITY (not just in dissemination), things might be very different. Are you aware of any groups that exist promoting and trying to realize Stoic and Socratic traditions of thought?

    I went to a college that seemed founded in Socratic dialogue, and I would say that my education was vastly strengthened by this: it wasn't the facts I learned, or the authors I studied that helped, so much as the PROCESS of seminar and dialogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by degraded being View Post
    We are celebrity gossip whores. We want to wallow in it, swim around in it, fill the swimming pool with it, and dive it in. Throw it up in the air and let it splash all over us.
    guilty as charged.
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    I don't believe this is the first time we have heard of Marty Rathbun boasting of his integrity of having turned down money for something he doesn not believe in.

    Kind of ironic considering the facts. Are these public boasts of integrity a front for the years of being at the top of Scientology and overseeing and being part of legal operations where people who told the truth (like Gerry) were forced into the courtroom, where evidence in the Lisa McPherson trial was destroyed and on and on. Where was his integrity then?

    I don't have any more faith in him protecting those who are on the side of truth because of these declarations of integrity. It shows that he only wants to protect the legacy of LRH and his auditing business. Did he not have people's PC folders culled for two decades?

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    Gee, now why would people think Marty would expose Tom Cruise's secrets? Hmmm, let me think...

    Because he already has!

    Name all the Catholic priests who brag about the celebrities who have confessed to them. Gee, I don't know of any. But Marty has often "let slip" that he was "Tom Cruise's auditor™"!

    But now he's making a Big Deal about how he won't tell all, even though (did he mention) he was "Tom Cruise's Auditor™". Isn't that just like all those Catholic priests who make such a big deal about who confessed to them but "they'll never tell".

    God, it is so disgusting.

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    Perhaps he expects T.C. to cognite and join him on the right side.

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