OATEE THREE - FREEDOM FROM OVERWHELM - WTF?

[Veda]

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until I see evidence of someone actually attempting to *solve it* and not dying I'll stick with my understanding of it

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[Veda]

Sadly an appreciation for accuracy appears to be sorely lacking among some of the regular posters on this board.


Mark A. Baker

You have no idea how sad it is.

[Idle Morgue]

Well, actually, to be fair and honest, the action of frightening people to get them to contribute to some cause has been going on for a VERY long time. Hubbard created his own unique version of this. Hubbard re-packaged this whole "doom and gloom", and the "solution from the doom and gloom" approach to controlling people.

Threats of "eternal damnation" and "being tormented forever in the burning fires of Hell" were a tactic used in Christianity to coax the believers into supporting their religious leaders and to get them to contribute/behave in certain ways. The use of fear and threats of harm has been around probably as long as Man.

"If you don't make it now with Scientology, you may never get another chance".

"Eternal oblivion is what awaits you if you fail to take full advantage of Scientology and its Bridge to Total Freedom".

"You can be in good shape or in very bad shape for the rest of eternity, and the choice is up to you".

"The futures of all men, women, and children on Earth depend on what you do NOW with Scientology".

And, on and on ad nauseum. Hubbard created a very real "threat and fear" of what ones future would be like if one failed to take full advantage of the Scientology Bridge and attain "total freedom". Once people accept that viewpoint, and believe it, then controlling them is easy.

Hubbard didn't invent THAT larger game, the game of frightening people to exact compliance to certain behaviors. But, yes, he did invent the specific game that goes on in the world of Scientology, and various staff and public parrot his ideas (to the detriment of many), and ONLY his ideas.

SCIENTOLOGY -
MERCHANTS OF CHAOS!

[Gadfly]

SCIENTOLOGY -
MERCHANTS OF CHAOS!

That is another of the many contradictions of the subject and practices of Scientology.

Hubbard talks on and on about suppressive people, PTSness, the anti-social pesonality, and the always existent "merchant of chaos". Of course, he creates the view that they all exist "over there", far from Scientology, and that Hubbard himself and Scientology are the comlete antithesis of the "merchants of chaos".

But then involvement with organized Scientology, a version of Scientology that closely adheres to and applies the entire extant pattern of what Scientology is "supposed to be" based all extant LRH writings and lectures, places any Scientology participant in a VERY oppressive, ultra-controlling, intolerant and overwhelming environment (Scientology itself). One can't help but exist under suppression when involved with the "Church" of Scientology.

Scientology, where the contradictions never end.

[HelluvaHoax!]

SCIENTOLOGY -
MERCHANTS OF CHAOS!

true!

but beyond that Scientology is a Merchant of Money.

they will say terrifying things if it makes a person pay.

they will say theta things if it makes a person pay.

they will say anything to anyone if they get what they want.

i guess their grade 0 is really in.

[Smilla]

The truth about the solving of the OTIII problem, is that everyone other than the mighty LRH who tried to solve it perished.

Without exception, anyone who tried to solve OTIII fell off their motorbike, got busted up a bit and took a lot of pinks and greys, rum, and other stuff. Only LRH had the supply of drugs and booze neccessary to complete the work, and a bunch of little girs to fawn over him, while he screamed and shouted like a little baby for weeks.

What research! What a hero! Enough of the doubt!

[Gadfly]

true!

but beyond that Scientology is a Merchant of Money.

they will say terrifying things if it makes a person pay.

they will say theta things if it makes a person pay.

they will say anything to anyone if they get what they want.

i guess their grade 0 is really in.

Yep, and they USE the idea of "evil merchants of chaos", and FEAR of an eternal future of "suppression and chaos" to extract the money.

It is the same old "doom and gloom" scenario (similar to the "Hell" of Christianity), where the FEAR of such a horrible future is used carefully and exactly to control behavior (participation, paying money, contributing time and energy, etc.). Scientology is basically a very well thought out "behavioral control" system. Of course, the MIND control (severe indoctrination into the Scientology paradigm of ideas) precedes the behavioral manipulation.