Conflict in PTS policies by Ron, hisself

[guanoloco]

Oh!

You must have not read fine print at the bottom of the contract.

THE HUBBARD EXCEPTIONAL RULE OF PTS EXCEPTIONS: There shall be no exceptions to PTSness being caused by an SP except where the SP is higher on the command channel. Thus, people who roller coaster in the presence of big beings like Ron are actually PTS to themselves because of their own inherent evil (see List One R/Ser).





It doesn't have to make sense; it's Scientology!

To compound the felony He later writes that "we are all probably List One R/Sers"...meaning Ron, himself, is one too.

OMG!!! This shit is sooooooooooo stupid that it restimulates me to no end!

I really need Sneakster to start posting so I'm not over restimulated or whatever...

[Commander Birdsong]

Except that Hubbard framed so many of his statements as if they were ABSOLUTE truths:

The only reason that a person gets ill is because . . . . .

The only reason a person gives up study is because . . . . .

Scientology is the ONLY workable spiritual technology on earth . . . .

Psychiatry is the sole reason for the decline of this sector . . .

The only reason that a person blows is because of overts.

Scientology is the ONLY chance you, your family and all your friends have to make it out of the trap . . .

On and on, ad nauseum.

Hubbard was a person who framed just about everything he ever said or wrote, as if it was the ONLY truth and the ONLY important/valuable/useful data on the subject.

To get any use out of some bits of Scientology data one MUST violate KSW, one must evaluate the data against other non-Scientology data, and one must re-evaluate the data within the larger system of Scientology (things that Hubbard forbids in KSW and related policies).

yes.

hubbard abused egregiously the word "only".

to me this was evident at the outset and the semantic of my study received not literally but as exclamation underlining very substantial and pertinent insights. of course i never made this known and my action on staff was checked by those who would wield such absolutes like numchuks

but...

inasmuch as BOOK ONE!!! states as a first princple "there are no absolutes in dianetics" i cite LRH reference on my cast of mind and confident others would confirm it empirically better concords with human behaviour.

[Gadfly]

inasmuch as BOOK ONE!!! states as a first princple "there are no absolutes in dianetics" i cite LRH reference on my cast of mind and confident others would confirm it empirically better concords with human behaviour.

Hubbard was always HYPNOTISING people with COMMANDS. These emphatic statements, declared with intense "I am sure that this is the way it is", are COMMANDS. Hypnotic commands. His entire subject is largely an endless litany of COMMANDS (statements relayed with total conviction and Tone 40 intention). Just watch any lecture how the listeners were nodding in avid agreement - "yes Ron, yes Ron, yes Ron, yes Ron, yes Ron".

When Hubbard says, "You do not have to believe anything in Scientology . . . . ", he states it in an authoritative manner, as if it MUST "be true", as if it could be no other way, and he DEMANDS acceptance of the statement as true.

Except that, one actually DOES have to accept, adopt and believe a GREAT MANY IDEAS to remain a member of the Church of Scientology in good standing.

He does this at EVERY step in his subject of Scientology. He makes "this is exactly the way it is" statements, and he lies. Often.

And, being the smart bastard that he was, he often states things that do have at least have a modicum of truth to them (ref: "tell an acceptable truth") - so that he can attach those truthful or semi-truthful ideas to the bigger doosies of complete nonsense and make-believe ("we are making a new civilization", "we are the only ones with the tech and know-how to fix this sector", "your only chance is with and through Scientology", "Ron is your best friend", "anyone against us MUST be evil and suppressive", and on and on, ad nauseum).

[Commander Birdsong]

Hubbard was always HYPNOTISING people with COMMANDS. These emphatic statements, declared with intense "I am sure that this is the way it is", are COMMANDS. Hypnotic commands. His entire subject is largely an endless litany of COMMANDS (statements relayed with total conviction and Tone 40 intention). Just watch any lecture how the listeners were nodding in avid agreement - "yes Ron, yes Ron, yes Ron, yes Ron, yes Ron".

When Hubbard says, "You do not have to believe anything in Scientology . . . . ", he states it in an authoritative manner, as if it MUST "be true", as if it could be no other way, and he DEMANDS acceptance of the statement as true.

Except that, one actually DOES have to accept, adopt and believe a GREAT MANY IDEAS to remain a member of the Church of Scientology in good standing.

He does this at EVERY step in his subject of Scientology. He makes "this is exactly the way it is" statements, and he lies. Often.

And, being the smart bastard that he was, he often states things that do have at least have a modicum of truth to them (ref: "tell an acceptable truth") - so that he can attach those truthful or semi-truthful ideas to the bigger doosies of complete nonsense and make-believe ("we are making a new civilization", "we are the only ones with the tech and know-how to fix this sector", "your only chance is with and through Scientology", "Ron is your best friend", "anyone against us MUST be evil and suppressive", and on and on, ad nauseum).

yup...

ad nauseum sho' nuff...

that's the koolaid. i did not drink the koolaid nor ever did i serve up koolaid to others.

but there was wine there. wine? momma! kickapoo joy juice! jerifayette was bulldog. was a good friend of mine. never understood a single word he said but i helped him drink his wine, you know he always had some mighty fine wine

[Gadfly]

yup...

ad nauseum sho' nuff...

that's the koolaid. i did not drink the koolaid nor ever did i serve up koolaid to others.

but there was wine there. wine? momma! kickapoo joy juice! jerifayette was bulldog. was a good friend of mine. never understood a single word he said but i helped him drink his wine, you know he always had some mighty fine wine

Joy to the world
All the boys and girls now
Joy to the fishes in the deep blue sea
Joy to you and me

[HelluvaHoax!]

To compound the felony He later writes that "we are all probably List One R/Sers"...meaning Ron, himself, is one too.

OMG!!! This shit is sooooooooooo stupid that it restimulates me to no end!

I really need Sneakster to start posting so I'm not over restimulated or whatever...

LOL

Sneakster snuck back to the safety of Marty's blog after his mission to "destimulate people at ESMB" famously failed.

Like other Scientologists who boldly and defiantly announce that they have the tech to handle everybody else's "restimulation", they quickly run away when their own mind gets over-restimulated.

But when they fail to be able to handle their own "restimulation", they still hail that as a victory for the tech. How do they do this? By taking out another piece of tech called PTS/SP Tech and "choosing to disconnect".

See how it works? When others can't confront something they label it as reactive overrestimulation. But when they can't confront something, they label it as an OT exercising their inalienable right to choose on their own determinism whether they wish to communicate or not.

[Johnd]

As we all know (or most of us) Ron writes all injuries are to some degree due to a PTS condition. Or is it? The following quote is from the OODs of 5 June 1970 - see the latest Tony Ortega blog. http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...rantz.php#more


Man, I wish I had this ref when I was getting all those damn 10-Aug handlings as part of my refreshers on OT 7. I could have pulled the old Richard Dawson "Survey Says!" line on my auditors and saved myself a fortune on "finding" SP's responsible for my bad condition.

As I think about it, there is something similar to the o/w mind control mechanism and the PTS=SP data. It also strikes me as a mind control mechanism, more effective than the MAA's physically regulating who you can see, because by instilling a "must avoid" mentality in the person, he becomes self policing. Sheesh.

Mimsey

Good point in my opinion on the control mechanism aspect pts sp "tech" and O/W tech. The SP is a fundamental source of evil, is the"anti-social personality, is the anti scientolgist. They must of course be avoided as sps can make the tech "appear" not to work and create all manner of other unspeakable evil, including accidents and illness. SPs are the witches and evil sorcerers of the scientology cult. Scientologists, already under powerful control, buy the blatant nazi-like scapegoating and the equation of anti-scientologist = evil person who ruins everything. Yeah, as a cult member,with the pts sp implant installed, I was self-policing and I guess many others were. (maybe not you.)

The self-policing (as I understand it at least in my case and perhaps for many others) would be a tremendous survival benefit to the cult. With the implant installed, cult members could be expected to reflexively nullify in their minds any communication critical of the cult, classifying it as the deadly spew of an evil being.

(I also think that we, as very imperfect human thinkers, are predisposed to buying into stupid, vicious crap like the "sp" scapegoating. There are plenty of awful historical precedents.)

[Mimsey Borogrove]

Scapegoating - what you say is spot on, especially when I think of my declare. And how every now and again, when I am slandered by some idiot MAA or EO and I hear about it, I get pissed. Why can't they leave it (me) alone. It is interesting, they have to demonize me, and others like myself, to manipulate their public.

They have bought into this crap that somehow I have undue influence over people I might run across once in a blue moon. I think, in my former existence as a Scientologist, who was trained, on 7 etc, who has now "gone to the dark side", they feel if they don't make me look bad, people who know me would ask "Why is he no longer on lines? He was well liked and a good person. What happened?" And what the F**k do they have to say? Here is a DA pack on Mimsey and you can see how evil he is.

So what I am trying to say here is: The PTS SP tech is a smoke screen for their wanting to shut up inconvenient questions about people the org has shit canned. Also to stop people from communicating with the declared (the un dead?) for fear of what they might hear, and do. (like leave or ask, god forbid, for a refund)

Mimsey

[guanoloco]

Scapegoating - what you say is spot on, especially when I think of my declare. And how every now and again, when I am slandered by some idiot MAA or EO and I hear about it, I get pissed. Why can't they leave it (me) alone. It is interesting, they have to demonize me, and others like myself, to manipulate their public.

They have bought into this crap that somehow I have undue influence over people I might run across once in a blue moon. I think, in my former existence as a Scientologist, who was trained, on 7 etc, who has now "gone to the dark side", they feel if they don't make me look bad, people who know me would ask "Why is he no longer on lines? He was well liked and a good person. What happened?" And what the F**k do they have to say? Here is a DA pack on Mimsey and you can see how evil he is.

So what I am trying to say here is: The PTS SP tech is a smoke screen for their wanting to shut up inconvenient questions about people the org has shit canned. Also to stop people from communicating with the declared (the un dead?) for fear of what they might hear, and do. (like leave or ask, god forbid, for a refund)

Mimsey

This "smoke screen" that you speak of...well, it appears to be suspiciously similar to the "squid ink" I've seen mentioned here on occasion.

[Infinite]

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Thanks to ESMB's University of Hoaxology we can have all sorts of fun confirming the L Ron Hubbard Law of Commotion and the PTS policies are a gem mine of examples. Among my favourites is the conflict between what L Ron Hubbard in his PTS/SP Course Pack defines as roboticism and what he defnes elsewhere as a valid path to spiritual freedom.

Contrast and compare:

(HCOB 10 MAY 1972 . . . )

NEEDING ORDERS

The exact mechanism of needing orders is to be found as an outgrowth of the mental condition outlined in HCOB 28 Nov 1970, PSYCHOSIS. [EDIT: ie, people needing orders are insane]

The individual with an evil purpose has to withhold himself because he may do destructive things.

When he fails to withhold himself he commits overt acts on his fellows or other dynamics and occasionally loses control and does so.

This of course makes him quite inactive.

To overcome this he refuses any responsibility for his own actions.

Any motion he makes must be on the responsibility of others.

He operates then only when given orders.

Thus he must have orders to operate.

Therefore one could term such a person a robot. And the malady could be called robotism . . .

with Tape 5411C24:

. . . Actually the salvation of any individual is the ability with a free and clear mind and heart to follow orders.

I knew the happiest professional soldier, umm, there are a lot of people in armies they always call them professional privates - and I knew the happiest professional private you ever wanted to look into. This guy was a model, a model, he had a model service record- he'd been a private for sixteen or twenty years then the war came along and that was just another war to him. He was in the Marine Corps, and the Marine Corps has a lot more professional privates than the Army, this is no aspersion against an armed service since they never considered the Army an armed service. The professional private in this particular case was a very happy man. There was nothing wrong with this boy, he had no ambition to become a private first class and had not had for twenty years. It was completely out of his reach to realise the idea, he said to himself, you know, "private first class, who wants to be a private first class?" One time somebody played a dirty trick on him realising he'd been in the corps for about twelve years and they made him a first sargeant for a little while. And the only blot on his record was a little bit upsetting to him because he'd had to go out and invest in enough whiskey to get drunk enough to beat up a shore patrol in order to get busted down back to private again and he hadn't enjoyed the drunk because he was not a drinking man. Now, here is a case of somebody who was not pushing around in life but actually was leading a rather happy life. This man was not a model simply because he was staying still but wasn't trying to get anything done he was just trying to be what he could be . . .

. . . yep, robots = insane yet obedience = freedom!! Delish.