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    Default Re: Ethical Standards in Counselling and Psychotherapy.

    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaHoax! View Post
    This policy is for your spiritual-benefit.

    Ron's wholetrack research revealed that helping someone go spiritually-free without first paying MEST dollars results in a spiritual-criminal.

    Thank God that Ron found this out before we of the dwindling spiral pulled in even more spiritual-motivators.
    Thank-you for caring about me!

    I will report to cramming as soon as I am near an org to correct my confusion.

    When willl THAT be?

    NEVER!!!!!!!!
    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

    "They must know how to kindle and fan an extravagent hope". - Eric Hoffer about the "true believer". "Total Freedom", "your eternity", and "OT" involve a few of the extravagant hopes in Scientology.

    Go HERE to view and/or download the essay, "The Three Basic Scientology Beliefs".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote13 View Post
    I always remember the cover of dianetics, where it says "the modern science of mental health". It confused the hell out of me when i was a kid cause we were always supposed to say "$cientology is a religion", but it was a religion based on scientifically proven "data". And it was "science" to address the "spirit", but it was the type of science that only a $cientologist could understand cause I was always told "wogs" were too degraded to understand, so it'd be like talking gibberish to them, they weren't aware enough yet.

    It's a scientific religion of technology that requires you to believe it works for it to work and people who question it will never have it work for them cause they dont believe, but its still a science cause IT works! lol ( not to mention you can never explain exactly how or why it works or produce observabe repeatable phenomena or it will never work even if you believe)

    The waffling back and forth between religion and science just shows how wishy washy they are and can't defend any of ther actions or practices with verifiable proof or reasonable explainations(ie proof that doesn't require you to blindly take everything hubbard said as true).

    The shell game is a wonderful analogy, but one minor change, take the pea out of the equation so the people can never win, but think they can.

    It's a mindfuck that uses deceit, manipulation, bait and switch and outright lies to achieve it's ends( don't worry they can teach you too ). Monsters hide in the dark, the light of truth is an anathema to $cientology. "Religion", "therapy", "science", whichever they call themselves, they fall short.
    The "wogs won't understand, so you can't tell them the truth" is a bad indicator that Scientology is a destructive cult. The data keeps changing according to your audience, and (basically) how indoctrinated and under control they are...

    I keep thinking of Jason Beghe and David Duchovny rolling in the grass unable to stop laughing or stand up after Jason describes OT III...
    Please call me by my true names
    so I can hear all my cries and laughs at once...
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    Yep, Grey Lensman. I agree. And the proof is- do all non Scn'ists "not understand"? Including the PHDs, the geniuses, the sharp cookies. So, the vast majority of all non Scn'ists "don't understand"- then something's wrong with da message.
    There are other methods out there besides Scn and Dianetics,you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadfly View Post
    Strictly-speaking, THAT is simple an assertion, a claim, or a purported statement. ...
    Back in the day it was on the release papers I signed. That's adequate for establishing the truth of the statement.


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    Default Re: Ethical Standards in Counselling and Psychotherapy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A. Baker View Post
    Back in the day it was on the release papers I signed. That's adequate for establishing the truth of the statement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadfly View Post


    You can bet that they will NOT accept "spiritual dollars" - only REAL physical universe dollars! "Postulate checks" were outlawed in Scientology a LONG time ago!
    But, not until they stopped making CofS a LOT of money!
    I’m not saying that everyone who is in Scientology is stupid, but I will say that I was purposefully blind for a long time. Paul Haggis

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    Default Re: Ethical Standards in Counselling and Psychotherapy.

    Bump.

    Informative thread about the OP.


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