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    Quote Originally Posted by bill franks View Post
    I find it increasingly apparent that inder and Rathbun want the job that miscavage now has. Perhaps they should just begin to campaign for that. Of course, there is the issue of the money that Scn hoards. It might be interesting to hear what rinder and rathbun have to say about this issue is what it is going to boil down to. I hardly think hubbard is going to have much of a claim to it when and if he comes back to pick p his check. and then of course the irs needs to be discussed.
    Some of this is toungue in cheek, but a lot of it represents real issues that r&r must be quite aware of. bill Franks
    Given Marty's history as a violent head banger, I would be surprised if his fellow SO would welcome his return, esp if they manage to get rid of der Dwarfenpoofen.

    Bill, you have any info on why Meade Emory & Co was put in control of CST?

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    Hi Caroline, FYI

    At Tippingpoint Forum:

    author=wynot August 06, 2012, 22:59

    Gone now, copyright thinging...

    darn.

    'til;
    wynot
    author=ethercat August 08, 2012, 17:53

    It's back. Must be good. Scientology must have complained to YouTube.

    author=Mary_McConnell August 08, 2012, 18:47

    It's down again:

    Office of Special Affairs -..."
    This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Südwestrundfunk.
    Sorry about that
    .

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    On 13 November 2012, our domains, gerryarmstrong.ca and xenu.ca, were hacked, which has necessitated a rebuild of our Canadian sites. This work is ongoing.

    As a consequence of the hack, the links to gerryarmstrong.ca in this thread no longer work. For legal and other reasons, here is the updated link to Gerry Armstrong's declaration in support of an online form counter-notification to the bad faith claim made by filmmaker Markus Thoess that Gerry infringed his copyright by publishing a video entitled “Mike Rinder Black PR’s Gerry Armstrong and Graham Berry." Thoess had given Gerry the video and permission to publish it. The Scientologists and their supporters got Thoess to act against Gerry.





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    Mike Rinder has that '1.1' covertly hostile sticky icky sleezy 'tone' pretty much down pat.
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    Mike Rinder could do is all a favour and let us know who were the two OSA plants working in the LMT. What are the chances?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonyMary View Post
    Mike Rinder has that '1.1' covertly hostile sticky icky sleezy 'tone' pretty much down pat.
    Ya know, I watch these videos now of Rinder, Buns of Wrath and Gerry and I gots to tell ya Folks...ain't one them has really changed from when I knew them "back in the days" that I can tell.

    Rinder was smug, calculating, chameleon-like, consummate BS artist when I knew him on the Apollo.

    Rathbun was a hyper-aggressive, duplicitous, self-absorbed show-boater when I was around him in the latter '70's.

    Gerry was an intelligent, pragmatic, thoroughly decent and enjoyable person to be around when we were shipmates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite View Post
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    Mike Rinder could do is all a favour and let us know who were the two OSA plants working in the LMT. What are the chances?
    Agreed. I was in contact with people at LMT, I'd like to know who was working for the church. One, Theresa, seems to have fallen off the face of the earth and I wonder if she was one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afaceinthecrowd View Post
    Ya know, I watch these videos now of Rinder, Buns of Wrath and Gerry and I gots to tell ya Folks...ain't one them has really changed from when I knew them "back in the days" that I can tell.

    Rinder was smug, calculating, chameleon-like, consummate BS artist when I knew him on the Apollo.
    Yep and he was when he worked for Vicki Az as her communicator as well. but he also had a "hail fellow and well met" kind of salesman demeanor that was OK. I liked Mike for the most part.

    Rathbun was a hyper-aggressive, duplicitous, self-absorbed show-boater when I was around him in the latter '70's.
    Looking back now I think he could have been the prototype for the character "Creedy" in V for Vendetta.

    Gerry was an intelligent, pragmatic, thoroughly decent and enjoyable person to be around when we were shipmates.

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    Default Re: Skirmish over YT video of Mike Rinder black PRing Gerry Armstrong and Graham Berr

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite View Post
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    Mike Rinder could do is all a favour and let us know who were the two OSA plants working in the LMT. What are the chances?
    Rinder is not the type that does "favors". Rinder does "deals", "Ops" and and "Set Ups" to forward Rinder's agenda and Rinder.

    The "Wheels" are always turnin' and smokin' in Rinder's head.

    I've watched him "work" others and I've watched him try to "work" me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Wenlock View Post
    Yep and he was when he worked for Vicki Az as her communicator as well. but he also had a "hail fellow and well met" kind of salesman demeanor that was OK. I liked Mike for the most part.


    I liked mike, too...we always got along just fine...but, I trusted him as far as I could throw him.
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