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    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaHoax! View Post
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    Cross-posted from the Stupid Thread. . .


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    I think a new level of stupid has just been achieved.

    A Scientologist (Marty Rathbun) wants people to stop hating and fearing Scientology.

    He wants wogs to think Scientology is a good thing.

    So he publishes a book that has crazy-crazy Scientologists on the cover, applying Scientology Fair Game and attacking squirrels.

    In a Scientologist's mind this will increase Affinity, Reality & Communication to Ron Hubbard and Scientology.

    You heard me. Showing lunatic OT's that were created with Scientology, as a way to try to make Scientology look good.

    What is Wrong With Scientology Scientologists?!!


    But, but, but... it's not Scientology, it's Miscavology, whch is MIS-applied Scientology, REVERSE Scientology, BLACK Scientology, and ANTI-Scientology.

    And those aren't Scientologists, they're Miscavologists.

    The real picture, depicting what we are supposed to believe IS WRONG WITH SCIENTOLOGY would be this:



    However, it's not nearly as entertaining.

    Now, I'm sure that some helpful Scientologist will come along with quotes from L. Ron Hubbard, founder, regarding how the wonderful subject of Scientology could be abused, and could be MIS-used.

    (Sound in the background of outside-the-CofS-Scientologists scurrying about gathering LRH inspirational quotes.)

    I think the choice of cover was quite clever on Marty's part.

    It makes people laugh, and Marty will laugh with them, and as any vacuum cleaner salesman can tell you, that's an excellent way of getting in the door.

    And, by the way, Fair Game was "cancelled in 1968," and what Fair Gaming occurred was because of bad people (SPs) that infiltrated Scientology, or aberrated people (banky or PTS) in Scientology, or people with misunderstood words in Scientology, and they MIS-used Scientology.

    And I hate to tell you this but some people will believe that, or, at least, will be uncertain enough to go, "Well, maybe."

    And, although the discussion already occurred months ago, this would barely qualify as Fair Game. It was not covert, it did not involve tricking, suing, lying to, or destroying: It was (for all practical purposes) a gift to Marty, and his (self described) "mission," delivered in broad daylight, on YouTube.

    So, we'll see. Marty may yet screw it up, but I think he's started out, at least, by being fairly clever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dulloldfart View Post
    I think it is an awful book cover.

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    The lay out is poor, and amateurish, but I think the cover will make people laugh (see above from vacuum cleaner salesman instruction manual).

    It says, "Scientology is really not dangerous, it's only ridiculous" - but wait, if the person reads further, he or she will discover that Scientology is really pretty cool, but was hijacked by a terrible anti-Scientologist thirty years ago.



    I hope I'm wrong about this, and Marty is "as dumb as he looks."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dulloldfart View Post
    I think it is an awful book cover.

    It looks like something some non-professional would throw together on their home computer as a place-holder. The font (single) is terrible. There is too much blank field. My remaining comments relate to the image and the wording, not the typographical representation of the words.

    The title is OK, if misleading!

    The photo is stupid. It is amusing to people like us, and it fits great with captions like "A world without insanity" where the reader knows the context. But who is the book intended for? Marty's sycophants will lap it up, but they would lap up a book containing his breakfast menus. What would the photo mean to a non-Scio who is not an inveterate Scn-watcher? All I think it would convey — without further research by the reader — is three guys doing something ridiculous, but exactly what would be unknown.

    "Healing through understanding" is a very bland non-gripping subtitle that could relate to any nicey-nice talk therapy whatsoever. WTF does it have to do with the disharmonious crap above it? It seems to be completely disrelated to the main title. If one already knows what the book is about, it's no problem: Marty is going to present the good bits of Scn, while thrusting some bad bits in one's face to try and make it interesting. What is on the cover right now doesn't show that at all, but merely a confused message.

    It's OK to have the author's name on the cover.Paul


    Cool critique...

    There is a whole lot more wrong with this hot mess of a graphic absurdity.

    It calls to mind the creepy graphic-message dissonance of Hubbard bookcover-tech:


    This has got to be a temporary mock up. He isn't actually going to go with this amateurish thing is he? I mean even the top cloud formation wasn't pasted property so that on the right side there is an obvious squared edge that is not consistent with the left side (see the straight-edge cutout that was pasted in there, leaving the border?)

    There are more 101 graphic layout errors but none of it compares to the disconnected theory of putting "dramatizing" OT VIII's on proud display for the world to see.

    Clearly, Marty doesn't get that they are the "products" of Scientology and it has absolutely nothing to do with David Miscavich and everything to do with Hubbard's policies on attacking SPs & Squirrels.

    Marty himself was sending out similar missions to this head cam fiasco but he apparently prides himself on the fact that they were done before people had handy mobile phones to video record these type of insane attacks.

    CONCLUSION: Scientologists only get upset about human rights violations when they are caught violating them.
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    So when Marty publishes his love letter to his favorite muse, it will get a lot of snarky comments on it's Amazon page and if he tries to do a book signing tour, few will show up, and there is the chance he will get roasted in any media interviews - just how may units will he sell? Certainly not in the league of Janet Reitman's tome. I think the public will realize it is full of pandering BS and spend their $ on Larry Wright's book.

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    I suspect that the majority of people who see the title, "what is wrong with Scientology", will simply say to themselves, "yep, Scientology, LOTS wrong with that nutbag religion".

    Most likely, if the book actually makes it onto the shelves of major book outlets, MANY more people will glance at the title than who will buy the book and read it.

    Scientology is a tiny cult. I mean, how many people actually buy and read books about the Moonies, or UFO cults?
    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

    "They must know how to kindle and fan an extravagent hope". - Eric Hoffer about the "true believer". "Total Freedom", "your eternity", and "OT" involve a few of the extravagant hopes in Scientology.

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    Oh! Who are those camera hat goons? Can they sue for him using them on the cover of his book? It's not like he got signed releases from them.

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    I mean, how many people actually buy and read books about the Moonies, or UFO cults?
    Uh, we did.... Mimsey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimsey Borogrove View Post
    Oh! Who are those camera hat goons? Can they sue for him using them on the cover of his book? It's not like he got signed releases from them.

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    Since they were on his property and thrusting their cameras in his face, I doubt if such a claim would get very far. Not too much "expectation of privacy" in that position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimsey Borogrove View Post
    Uh, we did.... Mimsey
    Well, okay, but that doesn't mean that "most" people did or will.

    If Marty's book is aimed at the "general public", I doubt that it will get much attention. It will probably mostly be read by people who are ALREADY familar with Scientology (or cults).

    I could be wrong.
    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

    "They must know how to kindle and fan an extravagent hope". - Eric Hoffer about the "true believer". "Total Freedom", "your eternity", and "OT" involve a few of the extravagant hopes in Scientology.

    Go HERE to view and/or download the essay, "The Three Basic Scientology Beliefs".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dulloldfart View Post
    I think it is an awful book cover.

    It looks like something some non-professional would throw together on their home computer as a place-holder. The font (single) is terrible. There is too much blank field. My remaining comments relate to the image and the wording, not the typographical representation of the words.

    The title is OK, if misleading!

    The photo is stupid. It is amusing to people like us, and it fits great with captions like "A world without insanity" where the reader knows the context. But who is the book intended for? Marty's sycophants will lap it up, but they would lap up a book containing his breakfast menus. What would the photo mean to a non-Scio who is not an inveterate Scn-watcher? All I think it would convey — without further research by the reader — is three guys doing something ridiculous, but exactly what would be unknown.

    "Healing through understanding" is a very bland non-gripping subtitle that could relate to any nicey-nice talk therapy whatsoever. WTF does it have to do with the disharmonious crap above it? It seems to be completely disrelated to the main title. If one already knows what the book is about, it's no problem: Marty is going to present the good bits of Scn, while thrusting some bad bits in one's face to try and make it interesting. What is on the cover right now doesn't show that at all, but merely a confused message.

    It's OK to have the author's name on the cover.

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    Yep, I agree with your take.

    The cover is awful. I thought it was some kind of powerpoint presentation by a beginner. It looks like the book is going to be printed by the HP laser jet in the corner of his study.

    I know the whole squirrel buster thing. I look at the cover and think ok...this picture symbolises what is wrong with scientology.

    Scientology's public face is associated with maniacal braying, couch jumping, creepy stalkings and law suits. Head cams don't seem that odd in context.
    How many uninvolved people are going to wonder if the head cam thing is the problem or the healing solution?

    Healing through understanding. The title reeks of the snake oil self help psychobabble crap. Sure there are the eternal optimists who buy the 7 Habits and the Secret nonsense and get all glassy-eyed and spiritual for a couple of weeks - but who cares enough about Scientology to even try and understand it? Who wants to be associated with it in any way? The name is poison.


    Marty is preaching to the converted and getting back at John Allender.

    I think there wil be little posses of independents buying up the stocks at book stores....Hard to shake lifetime habits.
    A human statue made of living stone / A paradox etched in human bone / If you could see behind his thin disguise /There`s a hidden glint of madness in his eyes. / Many men are fooled by his smile / His superficial grace his charm his style / Sardonicus is everybody`s friend /Sardonicus keeps smiling to the end.

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