"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
"They must know how to kindle and fan an extravagent hope". - Eric Hoffer about the "true believer". "Total Freedom", "your eternity", and "OT" involve a few of the extravagant hopes in Scientology.
Go HERE to view and/or download the essay, "The Three Basic Scientology Beliefs".
"Religion is free; Scientology is neither."
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever." - George Orwell, 1984
"L. Ron Hubbard is the cult leader for the crime that is Scientology." - Cleverbot
"And while we're at it I might as well toss this in for a good laugh. We were doing a lot of "research" on Rockslams at that time and one of the Hubbard thing's rockslamming items was...(oh you're going to love this)..."unlimited wealth"" - Mystic
Hi, Terril, my dear friend,
I think lower and intermediate level Scn auditing can be very good for unburdening heartbreak and things like that. Like the Grades.
But, you know, I honestly feel I have been getting just as much- possibly more, even- out of my meditation than I had with the other.
Now, getting back to Scn- I think that outside CofS, being away from that, pursuing Scn on one's own terms isn't intrinsically toxic. However, that being said, I sometimes wonder if it isn't a bit arbitrary and, thus, limiting.
Hope you dont mind my saying this. I don't believe I'll ever be one of those who think getting TRs, Scn auditing and whatnot outside CofS is going to make a person go to hell in a handbasket or whatever. But there is something to be said for a broad view.
When I meditate, it feels rather consciousness-expanding.
There's nothing that Scientology does that can't be done by other means, without the negative side-effects that are woven into every dot and comma of Scientology.
"Your Freezone stinks."
- Steve Hall
"It is true that the term FZ includes many varients of Scn, and some may be inadequate. Or even wrong headed."
- Terril Park
And, no, didn't find any side effects to doing the grades. Or TRs. Or word clearing. The side effects seem to mainly be with the indoctrination in CofS, what they do, and possibly some problems with Ls and some of the upper OT levels.
The only "side effect" that could be found with doing a set of TRs in ones' home, reading a book, doing some word clearing, getting some Grade auditing on problems or communication is evidently the fact that with those, it's one overly delineated path and other info and ideas are left out. So the lower and intermediate levels, processes and techniques of Scn would have that in common with the pursuit of very structured elder religions. I've noticed the same thing with them.
Those that want the trappings of a cult can be convinced that "works" too - but works to do what ?
But those who want the slow boat to China ( or nowhere ) get to take it.....meanwhile there are jets at the airport going to known destinations !
$cientology is only a laughable, but sick, joke on all it's dwindling adherents
To me- apart from cofS- if I'm just speaking of Scn as a practice and set of theories, it's just another path.
YMMV with all that stuff.