Darius Wilhere now out of the Sea Org & remarried....

[lkwdblds]

One might to look at the bigger picture than one individual in a somewhat large-ish organization.

There have been pages and pages of firsthand accounts of the insanity created by a madman - LRH - and pushed off on others who were willing or fooled into following his lead.

If my memory serves me somewhat right one of the mantras of " how to get a product " was to " DEMAND IT ! "

No doubt those closest to the living lightening got hit the hardest....and they turned and hit the next in line ( per policy ) the way they themselves were hit. This IS scientology.

In the military there is the expression " shit flows downhill ". The SO was no different. Nothing special. Shit flowed downhill. Welcome to the SO.

So, perhaps being mad at the First Sargent ( or even the buck sarge ) is a bit of mis-directed anger when it is was really the old man barking the orders to his chain of command that eventually came down to the coporals unfiltered in its fury.

Did I not know people who were harsh ? Of course I did ( and do ! ) Some people seemed to relish being harsher than they had to be. But, what I find interesting is some people readily offer up how old LRH wasn't all bad and deserves credit for the "good" he did.... yet in the next breath can point out how throughly awful others were. is that funny or what ?

I find LRH hard to " forgive ".

Some posts discuss the big picture and others discuss smaller issues within the big picture. The OP of this post was mainly to do with Sandy Wilhere and her family so I felt it appropriate to mention my own personal experiences with Sandy.

The big picture regarding LRH and the Sea Org which you seem to be emphasizing has been discussed here extensively for 5 years. There is nothing wrong with that and you make some good points in your post but I felt it more relevant for this particular thread to limit my comments to my own personal experiences dealing with Sandy. By the way, your statement that shit flows downhill is very descriptive but my post was written from the viewpoint of 1973 when I believed the Sea Org was special, very special. Actually, it is special but not because its better than other organization but because its is far worse!
Peace...Lakey

[Petey C]

All kinds of excuses are made for the perpetrator, being under enormous stress and pressure from her Seniors, etc. but little slack is cut or support given to the victim of this person's actions. A big injustice took place and yet no one is ever called to account. Just sayin!

You're right, of course. And if I'm honest, I'd have to say I was both perp and victim myself.

I forgave her when I thought she was dead. Now that there is a chance that she is still alive, of course I am not going to unforgive her! Forgiveness is forever, it is not something which is undone if circumstances change. As I said above, if she is alive I want her to get her health back and re-establish contact with her loved ones and enjoy and be productive for the duration of her life.

Good on you, Lakey. You have a good heart.

I sometimes have trouble with forgiveness. After a decade or two I can forgive almost anything, at least when I run out of steam (aka righteous outraged indignation). However, there are still a couple of people from more recent times I still find hard to forgive, although in more rational moments I can see that sometimes I did unforgiveable things to them too. I guess I'm just not quite ready yet. Maybe when I hit my 70s.